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mRNA cancer vaccine succeeded in Phase 3 melanoma trial, Moderna and Merck say (arstechnica.com)
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[–] 57 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I’m so excited... For RFK and the US government to ban this due to some yet to be determined autism related reason.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago

    Happened last year, still spite over the COVID vaccine. As referenced in the article:

    As such, Moderna and Merck call their mRNA cancer vaccine a type of "neoantigen therapy."

    The term avoids both "mRNA" and "vaccine," which draw hostility from Trump's anti-vaccine Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In addition to his concerted efforts to undermine lifesaving vaccines, Kennedy has canceled hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants for the development of mRNA vaccine technology.

    Not sure if this keyword strategy is what saved the program or if this was one of the ones allowed despite the cuts due to so much taxpayer money already invested.

    It was spring 2025 where the red state leaders were trying to ban mRNA vaccines, but that never went anywhere to my knowledge, hence the funding being cut to research instead.

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    • [–] 34 points 2 months ago

    Amazing stuff. Good news to hear and soon to be banned from my country because we're being run by fucking morons and pedophiles...

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    [–] 33 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    It's absolutely awesome, I do wonder how we eventually deal with the flood of very sensible vaccines though. Like, of course we can poke children a lot in the first 12 years of their life and probably also combine a few of them like we did before, though there also are a metric fuckton of things mRNA vaccines are possible against. Poking children once every week sounds, uh… complicated.

    (Don't get me wrong, I want a world where THAT is our problem)

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago*

    At least for respiratory vaccines, nasal inhalation might be a future way of reducing pokes. I think I saw early research saying its more effective as its where the problem is, but that getting both might be better than one or the other still.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    A lot of vaccines are combined. MMR and DTaP, for example, were probably two you got as a child.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Both separated via recent executive order.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Luckily I'm from Europe, we're not yet ruled by demented pedos.

    Indeed I thought about the MMR vaccine when I mentioned combining some. Though the side-effects can hit some children quite badly, still better than the illnesses.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Luckily I’m from Europe, we’re not yet ruled by demented pedos.

    The Church begs to differ

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    They said "not ruled by" not "don't exist".

    Church holds no power in most countries these days.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Functionally this is a non issue. The wording of the order says “once available” which is key language. There simply isn’t a separate vaccine commercially available for these diseases. To develop such a thing would take years, like possibly a decade, and no pharmaceutical company has any interest in spending a ton of money developing unnecessary vaccines that could easily become moot once political power shifts to someone that recognizes rfk led policy is utter nonsense. This doesn’t even mean a shift to Democrat power or a third party, there are several republican senators and congress members that are physicians and vocally oppose this shit

    The modified schedule is more of a threat, though it is being fought in court. The biggest issue from this administration (in this regard) is likely going to be erosion. The modified schedule getting to exist as an option for people to choose against aap recommendations, relaxing school requirements, etc that continues this pattern of “worst x outbreak in decades” (currently measles) because it affirms the desires of ignorant morons that think an extremely minimal risk of relatively minor side effects outweighs potentially fatal disease and also simply do not understand or care about the protection of those around them who are in far more danger (infants, cancer patients, people with autoimmune conditions, etc)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    HPV vaccines (stops cervical cancer) are a thing here for girls and they don't get them until they're 12. They just go around the schools. This seems like it could be done later too, maybe at the same time.

    The vaccine schedule for kids is already pretty hefty. I can't remember how many times we had to get them to the doctor but it felt like a lot when you're already frazzled.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Boys should really get it too, they can transmit the virus causing the cancer… I think in Germany they just did a marketing campaign about this recently to push vaccination rates among men.

    True the schedule was already quite a thing, though it probably felt like more than it was. Perhaps they find a way to administer the mRNA vaccines orally like with the old polio one (but this time safely!), that way you could perhaps "sneak" it into a piece of candy or sth.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind not giving it to boys but it's not part of the national vaccine schedule.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Cost-benefit is the likely reason.

    For comparison: the UK initially concluded the cost-benefit ratio was in favour of girls-only HPV vaccination, but IIUC updated this assessment and offered it to boys too after a public campaign by Jaime Winstone.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Every time such a calculation is made they should be forced by law to publicize the calculated worth of a humans life and/or health.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    In the UK at least, decisions and rationale about which vaccinations and treatments should be publicly-funded via the NHS are published quite transparently. For example: https://www.nihr.ac.uk/story/preventing-cancer-extending-vaccination-boys

    Vaccinating everyone in the UK against everything for which vaccines are available (even against diseases with very low risk in the UK) would cost so much that the NHS would have to cut treatments with very high benefit-to-cost ratio.

    Therefore, below a certain benefit-to-cost threshold, the UK has no reasonable choice except to withhold public funding. The HPV vaccine for boys was right on that threshold. IMO, the UK did the right thing by funding the clear benefit (HPV vaccine for girls, whose risk was significantly higher per existing evidence) and extending it to boys when additional evidence showed it was worth doing so.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Many of the cancers it prevents can be gotten regardless of sex. Among the cancers are throat and colorectal.

    Also prevents genital warts, which aren't dangerous (HPV either will cause warts or cancer depending on the strain), but like, you can ensure you don't get genital warts

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    • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Moderna stock went up 200% 🫠

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    • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You're not wearing sunscreen? Nah, I've got the vaccine 😎

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    • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    MRNA vaccines will cure most cancer, the common cold, and evebtually the majority of human disease related to viruses (think MS, Parkinson's, Malaria, etc)

    That why I couldn't believe MAGA shitheads going after the technology they don't even understand.

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    [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I Am Legend

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    lol yes. In seriousness, I’ll expect to hear opinions from auto-immunology, since that’s how this works.

    But also in seriousness, given the choice between chemo/radiation, death, chemo/radiation+death, or small chance of lupus, it’s no contest.

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    • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Here's to hoping conservatives don't take it.

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