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[–] 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

Funny story, here (Denmark) it's actually cheaper than in 2017, because people have stopped buying Pepsi and Coca-Cola, so they are almost constantly on sale at prices way lower than before Trump became president for his 2nd term.
Coca Cola and Pepsi need to have lower prices now than local brands to sell!
Personally I still buy a local brand, even when it's 50% more expensive than American brands.

Because fuck USA for electing Trump.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Thats amazing. I wish the entire country here in Canada was boycotting as much as some of us. We also seriously need way more local brands that compete with coke

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Its at least double that price locally usa by me IDK wtf you're smokin but put it down or pass it this way

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Edited my comment to include "here" is Denmark.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Ya got me, but why tf so many down votes, for truthfully sayin it's expensive here? Ya said ya edited it

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I'm happy I never developed a soda habit.

    I pretty much only buy snacks and junks for parties. A normal sized bag of chips was like $7 yesterday. The smaller tostitos were labeled like $5.50.

    I'd love to see some sort of general strike or mass boycott, but there's not enough organization, and things aren't bad enough for it to happen en masse spontaneously.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I’d love to see some sort of general strike

    Same. That's part of why we're 50 fiefdoms instead of a single country. Makes it way harder to organize as a people and much easier to divide.

    Luckily I've kicked soda before, so kicking it when prices ratchet up wasn't hard. It's just a matter of halving your consumption for two weeks straight, after which point you don't have any withdrawal symptoms and if it's not in your house there's no real temptation to drink it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don’t think the US being one country would change anything. I have long held the belief that there is a population limit, not a geographic limit, to people’s ability to care that seems to hover at around 10 million.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    When I was a freshman in college the bohemian vegan thing was super popular and the cool thing to do was to quit drinking soda. That’s probably the closest thing i have ever seen to some sort of mass boycott. So i guess we just need to get all the objectively attractive people to quit drinking soda and then we can peer pressure everyone else.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    My problem is that anytime I buy soda for a party, everyone just drinks the beer and seltzer, except for the one or two kids who end up there for some reason, which means I'll have literally lifetime worth of soda left over because I don't know anyone older than 13 who drinks it.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (16 children)
  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

    Regular prices for my location in the US Midwest are around $11 for a 12-pack of Coca-Cola products — that’s twelve 12oz cans. Sales are frequently run for “buy 3 (12-packs), get 3 free”.

    You can get roughly the same per-can sale price by buying flats of 35 cans from warehouse clubs like Costco every day without waiting for a sale, but the warehouse clubs don’t carry every Coca-Cola product, usually just Coke, Coke Zero Sugar, Diet Coke, and Sprite.

    Pepsi products cost roughly the same.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    12oz can is 355ml very close to the 33 cl or 330ml or 1/3 liter in Europe.
    The price you state is almost $1 per can.
    Here (Denmark) we get 1 can for $0.30 when on sale, which they almost always are now, because they've lost sales to local brands.

    When I see people buy these at the cheap, I sometimes comment in a very soft overbearing voice: Nonono we aren't buying American, like gently correcting a small child.

    Edit PS:
    The price in Denmark includes 25% sales tax.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Thw italian cola in the glass bottle is unreal

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And how much is it in OPs picture? Is that the price per can, and how much was a can then?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    No, that was price per case. If I'm not mistaken I havent see any change in can size.

    I always thought the bottles of soda were priced even weirder. I remember buying a 20oz bottle for about 2 dollars, or you could buy a 1 liter bottle for about 2 dollars or you could buy a 2 liter for about 2 dollars. But to show that prices are made up and don't really matter, a 1.5 liter bottle was 1 dollar...

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    You ever notice how graphic design is done moving? 1987, 1997, 2007, and 2017 all would've had different designs for everything, at least the Walmart sign.

    Change the price and you could convince me you took this picture yesterday.

    Only exception might be the sprite logo.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    tbf, a common price for coke and pepsi 12pks was $2 going as far back as the mid 1980s. it was due to get 'adjusted' some in that time. what is ridiculous, though, is the $8-9+ they're asking for today, when the price of store brands has only doubled (or less) in that same forty years.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    20 cents a can. Not bad.

    The real crime is in pre-chilled drinks. A 20oz Gatorade is about $4 here now. Minimum wage is still $7.25 per hour.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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    In the US, cents would be written similar to a fraction. A small number with a line under. The "100" under the line being implied. Eventually the line just fell off, and it became commonplace that cents are either after a decimal, or the smaller number.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    I used to sell soda at work. We'd go buy cases when it went on sale and sell it to the people.

    A sale in 2000/2001 would cost you ~ $0.20 a can. Stuff not on sale would be a touch over a quarter, so we sold the soda for a quarter. Never made any money, we just didn't feel like paying $0.75 a can when the company stopped giving out free soda and put in a vending machine.

    For the next few years, the sales would be closer to a quarter a can with an occasional sale being closer to 20 cents.

    Costco is currently around $0.61 for Diet coke.

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  • [–] 110 points 2 months ago (48 children)

    Hot take - soda is priced correctly in 2026. It's a luxury and is quite bad for your health.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 months ago (21 children)

    I just wish the reason would be a tax on sugar which is then used to subsidise more healthy options. But I don't believe that to be the case here. :(

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    UK introduced a tax on high sugar drinks a few years ago. Most drinks changed their recipe to be under the threshold and taste weird now. Coca Cola was the only one that didn't. I just looked and a 24 pack of cans is £15.25 for original where diet and zero are on sale at £8.50. The tax is only about £2 on that though so no idea why it's so much more.

    I pretty much entirely stopped drinking all of them though because I can't stand the taste now so I guess the tax worked. They are lowering the sugar threshold again in a couple years so I imagine more recipe changes are coming.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    That’s not a bad idea. It is addictive. Tax it like alcohol and tobacco. I’ve watched a subset of diabetics scream that they need sugar no matter what healthcare tries to say about it. Tears. More often, anger and spiteful overconsumption in reaction to being told no. (A subset, not all.)

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    If a diabetic has low blood sugar, then they literally DO need sugar, and fast!

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Which is true, and a good argument in favor of diabetics having easy access to sugary things -- not having them when they're needed can literally be life-threatening. It is not, however, am argument for everyone having easy access to them -- corporations bet on people getting addicted to them, and sugary drinks in particular give a sharp increase in risk for developing diabetes (according to one study, 25% increase in risk per 16oz sugary drink per day).

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago* (10 children)
  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    My wife has diabetes and I can tell that you think you know what you're talking about, but you're very wrong.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    They're making some shitty assumptions that someone will read and pass off as fact. Some asshole manager somewhere will read that bullshit and tell a diabetic they can wait to eat because it's no big deal because wanderingwanderer needs to feel like they said their peace about shit they don't live with.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    You message is is medically wrong, It misunderstands both diabetes and hypoglycemia, and it gives unsafe advice.

    A diabetic with low blood sugar absolutely does need fast‑acting sugar.
    That’s not optional, not “only if they messed up,” and not something complex carbs can fix quickly enough.

    Hypoglycemia is an acute medical emergency, especially for insulin‑dependent diabetics.

    Complex carbs (starches) take 20–60 minutes to digest.

    A hypoglycemic diabetic can lose consciousness in under 5 minutes.

    Simple sugars are only necessary if they messed up by not eating enough and already have dangerously low levels.

    This is false.

    Hypoglycemia is extremely common in diabetics, especially those using insulin or sulfonylureas. It is not a separate condition. It is a direct consequence of diabetes treatment.

    Insulin overdose

    Delayed meals

    Exercise

    Alcohol

    Illness

    Normal day‑to‑day variation in insulin sensitivity

    All can cause hypoglycemia in diabetics.

    So saying “that’s hypoglycemia, not diabetes” shows a misunderstanding of how diabetes works.

    You should consider educating yourself about diabetic hypoglycemia or insulin_overdose. before you start handing out medical advice.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I wasn't handing out medical advice. Notice nothing I said was directed towards hypoglycemics? If someone has the medical condition then chances are they talk about it with their doctors already and know what they need to

    The one thing I stand corrected on is that diabetics can have hypoglycemia as a complication of their medication. That makes sense. I wasn't thinking about that because I assumed it's usually a more carefully administered dose. But it's reasonable that sometimes shit happens. But diabetes is still hyperglycemia, and as you stated, diabetic hypoglycemia is a response to medication.

    That being said, you're acting like you're contradicting me by saying fast-acting sugars are necessary in an emergency. But the thing is, I clearly stated that emergencies are the moments when simple sugars are needed rather than complex carbs.

    People who suffer from standalone hypoglycemia can prevent acute crises by eating enough complex carbs throughout the day. As long as they do that, they don't require simple fast-acting sugars. Those are only needed when blood sugar drops dangerously low, as I already stated.

    I don't know enough about diabetes to say whether insulin-induced hypoglycemia functions the same way. I imagine it could drop off more precipitously. I don't know how easy or difficult it is to administer the right dose of insulin at the right time, or to manage blood sugar levels by consuming complex carbs through the day rather than relying on simple sugars during emergencies. I don't have a horse in that race.

    The point is though, simple sugars are only necessary during emergencies. And for standalone hypoglycemia at least, consuming complex carbs throughout the day is much healthier and safer than waiting till there's an emergency and then hitting the soda like it's an epi-pen.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I wasn’t thinking about that because I assumed

    Don't go on rants about medical shit you know nothing about before you spread disinformation and get someone hurt.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I wasn't going on a rant, I was responding to your comment which was just as long. If typing in multiple paragraphs is a rant, you were ranting too.

    And what I said wasn't disinformation. Non-diabetic hypoglycemics exist, and you pretending that they don't is harmful. Do you really want to tell a person with anorexia that they don't need to consume complex carbs throughout the day because they can just take fast-acting sugars when they get dangerously low blood sugar?

    We can keep talking past each other all we want, but it seems we're talking about two different things. I already said I stand corrected about diabetics not having hypoglycemia. But I was correct in that it's a complication from their medication, an overcorrection, and not the diabetes itself.

    There's a very clear medical distinction between symptoms of an illness and side effects of a medication. But if all you're interested in is self-righteous accusations then I'm not going to be party to this conversation any longer. You can rant to yourself in the corner if you'd like.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I've reported the disinformation and now i'm blocking you

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Go ahead, I really don't care. It's not disinformation, you just don't believe that non-diabetic hypoglycemics exist.

    Also, telling hypoglycemics that they don't need complex carbs throughout the day and can rely on simple sugars during emergencies, which is what you're doing, is harmful.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I was one of those people who knew my lifestyle was unhealthy, and turning it around was always just one week away. The diagnosis of type II felt like a loss of agency. Like it was no longer my choice to cut back on, or to cut out sugar.

    Once the initial shock of diagnosis and grief over all the foods I'd lost settled down, the truth was clear. I had made the choice. The choice to open every single one of those sodas, the choice to go with convenience over health. The choice to kick the can down the road, and I still had the choice to diet, or die slowly.

    Not gonna lie and say my diet is perfect now but, according to my NP, my labs paint the picture of someone successfully managing diabetes. I know I still have some work to do though.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    That's what we are doing in Finland. Sugar free drinks are taxed at 20c/l but other drinks can go up to 59c/l depending on the sugar amount

    Just checked prices from one grocery store and coke zero 24-pack is 15.50€ while the regular one is 19.50€

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  • Overall, Coke is most affordable compared with minimum wage in England, especially when Coke Zero is on offer, then Helsinki; in the US it takes the most minimum-wage work to buy a litre, and because regular and sugar-free cost exactly the same, there’s no price incentive at all to choose the sugar-free one.

    In England for a 24 pack (330ml?), sugar is £15 (€17.5, $20 USD), sugar free is £12 with a deal for £8.50 (€10, $11.5 USD), no deals for the sugar one! £12.71 is minimum wage here (€14.86, $17.21 USD). In US Walmart I see 24 pack of sugar and non sugar for $15.37 USD (12 OZx24) and US minimum wage is $7.25 USD (£5.40, €6.30).

    Location and drink EUR per litre GBP per litre USD per litre
    Helsinki — regular Coke €2.46 £2.10 $2.85
    Helsinki — Coke Zero €1.96 £1.67 $2.26
    England — regular Coke €2.22 £1.89 $2.56
    England — Coke Zero, normal price €1.77 £1.52 $2.05
    England — Coke Zero, offer price €1.26 £1.07 $1.45
    US Walmart — regular Coke €1.56 £1.33 $1.80
    US Walmart — Coke Zero €1.56 £1.33 $1.80
    Location and wage benchmark EUR/hour GBP/hour USD/hour Work for 1 litre of regular Coke Work for 1 litre of Coke Zero
    Helsinki — first-year supermarket minimum €11.61 £9.92 $13.43 12.7 minutes 10.1 minutes
    UK — adult minimum wage €14.87 £12.71 $17.20 8.9 minutes 7.2 minutes normally; 5.1 on offer
    US — federal minimum wage €6.27 £5.36 $7.25 14.9 minutes 14.9 minutes
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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Sugar free drinks are taxed at 20c/l

    Does that include artificial sweeteners? I have some sort of prejudice against them that I couldn't substantiate with research, but one thing is certain: none of them felt good to me.

    I am much happier with drinking less sweet beverages overall, but made with regular sugar. Actually tend to spend less that way, even if I pay more for less - I just happen to be buying that much less frequently that way.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    You're not wrong. But by that logic water based products would be cheaper. Which it sadly isn't. Often the contrary.

    The US very rarely uses price to incentivize good practices and vice versa.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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    If only they were able to create soda with zero sugar...

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Hotter take - Diet soda is even more of a luxury because it has practically zero nutritional value. There are some people who benefit from the sugar in soda as it's calories that sustain life. Of course that's not most people.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Ehh, it's still liquid at the end of the day. We going to call beef a luxury because chicken or tofu has more nutritional value (I do not know if this is true. This is just a random theoretical).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Average American drinks 45 gallons of soda a year. Most don't even drink water any more.

    But microplastics now cause everything.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Most don't even drink water any more.

    Do you have a source for that or even honestly believe it yourself?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    We teach our students on family medicine interview to ask if patients ever drink a glass of water. Most students are shocked to hear how many people never drink beverages that aren't sweetened. This is a North American phenomenon. Then, those patients are in clinic with obesity and eventually type 2 DM. In Europe , water is served with every meal.

    If you want to be a FIGJAM, research it yourself.

    Most countries teach children in schools how to eat healthy. For years, the FDA has called burger, fries Coke a balanced meal because corporate interests infiltrated government and universities. Harvard told us for decades sugar diets were better than high fat diets, because they were paid to. Candy bars were being sold as low fat healthy options , now people call them sports energy protein bars.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I looked it up before making my comment and couldn't find any info about what % of Americans drink water, only info about average volume of water consumption and average volume of soft drink consumption.

    You are right that there is a problem in North America with soft drink vs water consumption and it sounds like you know more about it than I do. I only called out your original statement that "most don't even drink water" because it seems like a huge stretch beyond what the research I was able to find can actually support. The idea that >50% of people in America don't drink water regularly or ever still seems absurd to me. I struggle to think you even believe it yourself.

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  • [+] -22 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    So is doom scrolling on Lemmy 🙄

    It's like you want to lose elections and make sure fascism is king.

    Just mind your own business, Jesus Christ.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Nobody is coming for your soda. Put down the baseball bat.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Nobody in the US has ever tried to single or soda. Never not even once. And I'm definitely not directly responding to bitching about is low price on the topic. Definitely not 🤣

    Jesus Christ 🤣🤦‍♂️

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I think you jumped the gun when you tried to compare this to losing elections. You kinda lost your ground to be sarcastic about how you're responding to some dude making a hot take.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    "And then we looked them dead in the eye and said, "Inflation is only 5% year-on-year", and they actually nodded along like we were reading them a bedtime story."

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