The Murena tax on these items is crazy. 34% increase in prices to have them shipped to US.
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Why is it USB 2.0? This would have been a great chance to undo the downgrade when they released the base version.
I love that fairphones have kept the SD card slot. Now make them a bit smaller and they'd be perfect.
Now if only we could get the headphone jack 😭
Check out Sonys xperias, they are less wide than most phones and has kept both jack and card
My current phone is an Xperia but Sony is slowly pulling out of Europe. They're not sold in my country anymore and I don't know if I'll be able to get one when I need a new phone. Sony is not exactly a reliable company.
Currently rocking the Xperia 1 VI and it's easily the best phone I've owned!
The Sony Xperia 5V has to be the phone with the worst software and technical support I've ever had. Add the excessive price to the mix and you have a customer that will never buy your product again. I loved having a headphone jack and sd card, but at some point you just need a phone that works properly.
But if they make the sd card slot smaller, you won't be able to fit an ad card in there, duh.
Where is it? I don't see one.
USB 2.0, wifi 6.0. Why did they make such a choice in 2026 ? We want last tech not a retro phone.
Fairphone is not about the latest tech. They tend to go for well-supported hardware to ensure longterm support.
They're also not meant to be flagship phones. These specs are pretty common in midrange phones still (and also completely fine for the majority of people).
USB 3 hasn't been latest tech in a while. I'm sure they aren't saving more than 5 dollars on this decision
Fairphone is not about the latest tech. They tend to go for well-supported hardware to ensure longterm support.
The USB 3.0 standard was finalized and published in 2008. USB 3.1 specification superseded it in 2013, and then USB 3.2 superseded that in 2017. Each version is fully backward compatible with every standard version from before, so there's nothing stopping people from releasing a 3.0 controller and certifying it works in the 3.2 mode that is a drop in replacement for 3.0.
WiFi 6… okay. The radios are expensive, I get it.
USB 2.0 though? Not even 3?
That is just unacceptable. It is such a tremendous pain on base iPhones too, and why? To save a nickel?
Its literally nickels youre saving. I had it on the first flagship phone i owned and i never understood it. Its a phone that had a much faster cpu and bit slower gpu than my laptop at the time and i cant even have wired video when its just like 20 traces to an soc that already has the pins for it from a port that already has all the contactors cause literally nobody sells high end water resisant usb c ports that dont support at least 3.1 10gbps
How often and how much are you transferring to your phone via USB?
Frequently.
I plug into a dedicated camera to transfer media, sometimes, or as a secondary viewfinder and USB 2.0 makes my bones ache.
I plug in to backup, to transfer a download real quick, all sorts of things…
Everytime I need a fast backup of the pics and videos. It is the fastest way for large files.
I need the dp alt mode. I regularly use my phone to play movies to my family when were staying over somewhere and its much easier to bring a single usbc-hdmi adapter than a whole laptop.
Using WiFi to transfer is far more convenient than having to get cables out anyway.
Furilabs FLX1 has the same problem. They backed down and removed usb3 to usb2 on newer models and it baffles me why.
the big irony to me, is everytime they announce a new one, i want to upgrade to it, but im supposed to stay on my old phone until it is barely usable.
Think of new phone models as refreshes for people in the market at the time, rather than something you need to get. If you have a good phone from the last 5 years or so, you are not missing out on anything.
This is what most people I know do, the only exceptions being tech enthusiasts and people with fuck-you money
My phone has it’s 10th birthday next year, only thing I think I’m missing is 5G, and probably vital security updates.
Huh, that makes me wonder, last time I upgraded was fairphone 4, and that's because my previous phone didn't have NFC, which is very useful nowadays, and it seems to have been a model released in 2017. Did I make a bad choice on my previous phone, or do you not have that either?
What do you use NFC for? Because I literally never use it. Just curious.
As mentioned in another comment, paying with my card through my phone, and when I get a new ID using it to verify identity (on government sites).
Also pinging @HerbGrower@slrpnk.net, since you're also curious ;D
Also curious, never used it. Got FF4, not sure if I have NFC or not.
Well it’s the iPhone X, not sure if it has NFC, what do you use it for?
Recently I've just been using it to pay with (instead of a separate physical card), but when I get my ID updated I believe I can use it to scan the chip inside to verify my identity. I'll be honest, I think back then I was seeing NFC stuff pop up more often, but not sure if it was a passing trend or if I've just not been using stuff where it'd be useful.
This is a problem I have with tech YouTubers and how they often compare phones directly with last years model. It’s always inevitably not worth upgrading from their POV. For a while there MKBHD would compare the new model to a, I’m guessing a little, 3 year old model which is much more realistic since most people aren’t upgrading sooner than that.
i do think 6+ is more of an incremental upgrade and i dont need it. my phone works great, pretty much the only games i play on my phone are via steamlink or retroarch.
i had the fp5 imported into the US, but when my usb started wearing out and i tried to get a new one it was a huge pain to get here. decided to get the 6 bc they actually sell parts here.
im slightly worried theyll do something like partner with postmarketos and make the 7 work flawlessly under linux at launch. it would be a great thing, but damn guys give me a reason to not buy the next model! lol
Sell it or give it to a family member so they can see that the data parasites are the reason they have to charge their phones every day.
The good thing about fairphones is that they are still great secondhand, so you could pass the fairphone bug onto someone else who needs a new phone with your old phone and get the newer one for yourself I guess
Consumption under capitalism something something
Same, but I've been holding out on my FP4 for almost 5 years. This shit is neigh indestructible with how much I let it fall on the floor. Had to buy a back plate twice though.
Instead of a Plus version they should just offer upgraded parts for the base phone.
Current fairphone owner, but my must have for my next phone is the ability to install Graphene.
Without that, umtgoing to Motorola. Can't even attempt to use e/os, as the installer won't function on mine.
Why graphene specifically? Using Calyx on my FF4 currently.
I need to be able to run some play things for work, and Graphene has a sandbox ability that e/os and others don't.
As in, they allow to run play things in the sandbox?
Graphene lets you run Google Play, but stops it from having outsized permissions, so it can't spy quite as well.
I think one could achieve some of that by using Private Space where Play is allowed permissions while stripping its permissions in the main profile. That's if you trust Android's permission model.
Your employer can provide you with a phone for work stuff then.
I wouldn't get my hopes up too much with motorola. They only mentioned the graphene collab like once in passing, and with how they're managed these days they probably don't even remember it.
If the cameras were significantly improved, I'd probably upgrade and gift my current FP6 to my niece. Looks like they're exactly the same though. For my use cases, I don't see any point in having more RAM or a better SoC in my phone, FP6 will serve me just fine on that front for many years.
Speaking of the cam, I find it quite good. It's comparable to Pixel a-series. What sucks for me is that it's not consistent. That's entirely software though.
So that means they'll fix it through a software patch, right?
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They'll fix it through a software patch... right?
It can take nice pictures, but as you say, it's not consistent. I'm not sure it's entirely software. Even using GCam software, about 30-40% of my pictures end up being wobbly. My Pixel 4a made much better pictures on average. Also, videos seem to have frequent stutters. Then there's the wideangle camera, which I'd consider pretty unusable quality-wise.
I just wish the screen was bigger so I could type.
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