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[–] 95 points 3 months ago (16 children)

AIPAC seems to be an undermining factor to American democracy.

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  • [–] 56 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    All monied interests are. But yes AIPAC is one of the worst considering it's openly by and for the benefit of a foreign government. Imagine if the PRC had such an organization how that would be perceived.

    The good news here is their willingness to support a republican here could make them into a great liberal boogie man with the right messaging.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    The Democratic Party is just as much in the pocket of AIPAC as the Republican Party; if anything this will just cause AIPAC to increase their lobbying further.

    Edit: I'm not trying to make a 'both sides' argument; the Democratic Party is far and away superior to the Republican Party. However, the party itself is not nearly as anti-Israel as its most progressive-leaning candidates are, meaning that a nationwide Democratic victory is unfortunately unlikely to result in the complete cessation of arms sales to Israel or recognition of genocide in Gaza.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    They don't deserve the down votes, they're right. Until the Gaza Genocide, a LOT of Dems were happy to take money from AIPAC, because there was little to no negative consequences for it.

    Now it has become TOXIC to take AIPAC money, but they hate losing such a reliable pipeline, and their AIPAC handlers are probably demanding they EARN the bribes they've been paid, so they're really motivated to stay on the side of Israel, unless...

    ...unless it means they lose their office. It doesn't make sense to support Israel if it means it's the last political decision they'll ever make. We need to punish those who are still sucking AIPAC teat at the ballot box, in multiple successive elections, until Dem candidates know that AIPAC is poison, and stay away.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I mean that obviously isn't true, that's what this whole article and comment section is about. Democratic candidates standing up to AIPAC.

    Now if you said almost as much, I would give you a pass.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago

    AIPAC was literally created because their predecessor had to register as a foreign agent...

    AIPACs first recipients of funds, were the people who sat on the very same committee. I want to think just months later, but it was at least the same people.

    And that's the story of how shit got so fucked up, and why AIPAC doesn't have to register as a foreign agent.

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  • [+] -12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    PUT ISRAEL FIRST DONATE TO AIPAC

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Fuck AIPAC and fuck each and every Zionist twat that supports them.

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  • [–] 82 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Good. Now it's gonna be undeniable that AIPAC is working against the American democracy. Both by not conceding to the will of Michiganders and by spending against the only party that isn't actively trying to dismantle the democratic system. That's gonna make it even more effrctive for the DSA to use AIPAC against opponents.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    True, I just hope the DSA makes ample, AMPLE arguments showing that this entire race wasn't a primary followed by a general, it was Al Sayed vs AIPAC the entire time. If Stevens had won, or if Rogers wins, AIPAC was getting everything they wanted regardless.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    After the Midterms, Schmuck is going to stick around as their Israel man in the Senate, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz will be Israel's woman in the House.

    America is about to become an Israeli colony.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    They'd have most likely supported the Republican no matter who won the dem.primary...

    Israel is a poison pill for Dems, even if they can get you past the primary, they still want a Republican Congress that lets trump do anything he wants.

    Ironically Israel is about to do most of the heavy lifting on purging the Dem party of zionists, the vast majority will all lose to AIPAC funded Republicans in generals even if they win their primaries.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    The Democrats that lose to Republicans will not just be because of AIPAC though. It will be AIPAC and the failure of the Democrats that run solely on "I'm not a Republican. We gotta stop Trump".

    Democrats lose when turnout is low. They win easily if turnout is high, no matter what funding difference there is. But voters don't turnout when they've only heard "stop the bad thing". They are numb. They are use to bad things no matter what. They turnout when they hear people talking about a politician that actually wants good things. Medicare for all, childcare, etc.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I would so love it if they completely drained their coffers and failed in every endeavor they were spending on.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    Here’s how we win:

    🖕

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    I love when the bad guys spend tons of money, and lose anyway.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    People need to stop spreading hate and be more productive for a better way of life for all. Fuck off AIPAC, going be butthurt somewhere else.

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    So, that would suggest AIPAC is now running for the Republican candidate.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Keep wasting your money, nazi losers!

    The wave of DSA (or adjacent) wins is just the first step.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    @inclementimmigrant I do hope hope people know what they want in life. Its not about Antisemitism. I do NOT support Antisemitism.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Okay...Not really sure what you're getting at here. Great that you don't support being a racist against people who are Jewish, that wonderful? I mean that should be just the default position of any decent human being, try not to be racist.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    @inclementimmigrant Thanks for helping me know what you were getting at. I only dislike the word 'Antisemitic' being applied over the inability to swallow the truth... using it to label anything someone utters, which is valid or known in silence is unacceptable. I once again declare that I am not a 'racist'. UPDATE: It was pointed out to me were I erred by Mastodon. I do apologize and will avoid such mistakes .

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