This is why I support car free pedestrian streets in urban and highly populated areas.

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[–] 59 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Police said [the driver] did not show signs of impairment

He's 87.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago

    American infrastructure makes it so one has to depend on the car for everything. Doctors appointment, out of milk, want to take your dog the dog park? Get in the car.

    Community it also dead, so others aren't going to step in and help out, probably not even his family.

    I'm not implying that justifies anything, but incidents like this are be expected in the USA - ride or die (why not both?!)

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago

    No shit scares the fuck out of me. I work for USSA insurance company the amount of 80 years they insure who can't even remember their fucking own birthday much less should be still driving are to goddamn high.

    But dealers still will take their money and they will call me trying to add a new car and we spend 20 minutes of 30 second procedure trying to Authenticate these people. How fuck are they allowed to still be driving on the roads?

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    80+ should have yearly tests designed specifically to weed out the dangerous ones.

    That would be much better than what we do now, which is nothing.

    Not everyone over 80 is a dangerous driver, we can't just set a hard limit, even though that would be easier, and perhaps more satisfying to younger people.

    Yes, public transportation would be a better solution, but it's more expensive than voters who vote want to pay for. So, if you're young and want better public transportation in your town where you live, then you need to vote in local elections. Almost no one votes in my small city, and those who do are mostly older, so we don't have nice things here.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 months ago

    Investigators are working to determine what led to the crash. Police said Cahill did not show signs of impairment.

    Perhaps the glacial reaction time of an 87 year old man should be considered impairment.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Nashville Mayor Freddie O’Connell released a statement about the incident, calling it an “incredibly tragic event.”

    The US, maybe everywhere else, does this routine where something bad happens, people say it's tragic, and stops. No root cause analysis. No steps to prevent it from happening again. Just thoughts and prayers and that's it. It's infuriating.

    There are many complex problems that are going to be uncomfortable to solve. We are all going to suffer before it gets better. But we should demand better. We should demand that the rich help or get out of the way.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    I also support retesting people every ten or so years and taking licenses away from people who are too old to react in any meaningful way to the road.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Transit should be free for anyone 65 and above. You can say he should have had his licence taken away a long time ago, but how is someone that age meant to get around without it.

    Give people a genuine affordable alternative to driving and that will get dangerous older drivers off the road.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    This was on Lower Broadway in the heart of Nashville's tourist district, which should have been pedestrianized years ago.

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    [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    This spineless society that forces the elderly to drive, when they clearly should have alternatives means to get around. Look what happens.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They had a caregiver sitting in the back seat. They should have been the one driving, there's no way they hadn't noticed the dangerous driving of someone so old.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    Too bad he wasn't elderly and poor. Isn't it amazing how poor people don't "have to" drive. We should figure out how they do that.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The accident took place in Tennessee. I'm not sure what the Medicaid benefit is in that state for transportation. For those that are on Medicaid here in NY, Medicaid will provide transportation to doctor appointments and the pharmacy and that is it. It doesn't provide transportation for things like shopping, visiting family, ect. For anything else, the poor people here are reliant on public transportation, taxis/ubers, riding a bike/walking if physically able, or begging family/friends for a ride.

    The poor, or elderly and poor, still need to drive if they have a vehicle, or find other means of transportation. Those other methods of transportation aren't cost effective in either time or money. Walking is free, but a 10 mile walk will take 3 hours, source: I have walked 10 miles when my bike had a flat and the busses stopped running. Public transit is cheap here in Albany, you can ride the bus all day for $3.90 if you use a bus card, but it can take 2-3 hours for a 10 mile trip in one direction depending on number of connections and schedule. The same trip in a taxi/uber might cost $20 - $30 but take only 15 minutes.

    I know that here in NY, people in homeless shelters are sometimes given free bus cards with like x number of prepaid trips. The elderly and disabled can get discounts on bus fare, but they have to jump through hoops to prove their disability/age and keep re-certifying for the discount.

    Do the poor get free transportation where you live?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Public transportation will always be cheaper than maintaining a personal vehicle. The problem public transportation may not exist or what does exist is very limited. Only the "big" cities will have some type of bus network. But the vast majority live outside in the suburbs which have absolute no access to public transportation.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    100% this. With the exception of a 3 year stint in Dallas, I have gone my entire life without a car because I grew up in NYC and Albany where I live now has an adequate bus system, although I ride my bike 10 months out of the year.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    My point is that when you are poor, it doesn't matter if you "have to" drive, you cannot drive. Poor people manage to survive in every city of the planet. Being a motorist is very privileged.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Don't they have to be tested every year?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    Where I live, the license only has to be renewed, but only every 2 years after turning 80. No driving test.

    Apparently:

    Tennessee does not set a maximum age for driving. Instead, the state evaluates drivers based on their ability to drive, which may require medical reviews, testing, restrictions and suspensions when safety concerns arise, according to Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security.

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    No states in the South impose a maximum age at which people have to stop driving, and only three enforce strict renewal laws for the elderly: Florida, Georgia and Louisiana (source)

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