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[–] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The best thing about Lumo is that it isn’t integrated with their core services. I hate seeing ✨bullshit everywhere.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If Lumo had access to the contents of your mailbox, wouldn't that be breaking a core feature of the whole Proton stack? E2EE/zero knowledge is fundamentally incompatible with integrating a provider-operated chatbot that can access your data

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    [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I've played around with Lumo... it uh, generates some text.

    Maybe I'm missing the point of why someone would pay for that?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I meant why would I pay for a program that doesn't really like, do anything? It literally only generates text. I'm not understanding the use case.

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    [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I personally like Lumo. There aren't many other services that offer privacy out of the box. And it's not some integrated solution so that I don't have to worry about data being shared with other services.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think Qwen 27B would make much sense. I'm pretty sure Deepseek is cheaper to serve at scale (because of the small active parameter set) and is "smarter." At least that's what is reflected by 3rd party provider pricing on Openrouter.

    Reliable Proton Mail, Drive, Calendar and Contacts integration

    I think this could cause major problems for privacy guarantees.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    how? aren't all of them already hosted on Proton's server. you are already trusting them for your data. how does Lumo make it worst?

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  • [+] -15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    "Given that many of us use Proton services and are privacy conscious" ~ oxymoron

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago

    An email and vpn provider promoting themselves as privacy conscious, and then developing ai should set off alarm bells. I was previously a customer of proton (email and vpn), you don't have to pay attention to their products, social media, and customer service for long to realise that marketing is their strong point. Purple-washing may become a term for faux privacy companies in future.

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