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[–] 46 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Maybe this is from growing up in a place with seasons, but 30C to 30F is a comfortable temperature range and I would be quite pleased to live in a place where those are the extremes.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    When I was young it was between -5 and +25C max. Now it's -10 and 42C max. And yet still there are people who say climate change isn't real.

    Oh and it's humid AF, 42C feels like 48C. I prefer 35 dry heat over 25 humid.

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    30C is normal but slightly annoying, 30F sucks.

    - A Floridian

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Oh okay, then 30C isn't even hot. Maybe 50C or 60C.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh we're pivoting away from personal, subjective opinion and towards objectivity now?

    30F is literally freezing, which is obviously below "cold."

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    As a Minnesotan, 30Β°F is still shorts weather

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Minnesotans at 30Β°F are a great example of direction mattering, and not just temperature; hit 30 on the way down and you'll see them change out of shorts, but hit 30 on the way up and you'll see them change into shorts

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    A lot of it depends on the wind chill factor. On a calm sunny dayβ€” -10F (that's -23C for those in Houston, TX)β€”can be very pleasant. But with a damp 25 mph (3.727912328e-8 for those in Tokyo) wind and 60F (that's 127 Delisle for those in the EU) temperature, it can cut right through you. We send 5 year olds out to play at -10F as long as the wind chill isn't more than -15.

    Source: I live in northern Minnesota, just a bit north of Frostbite Falls.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe they live on a hill and what they really mean is

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    One time my brother and i were testing eachother on our conversion (yes we are both very cool) and he gave me -40F just on a whim and i was trying to do it quick ad not accurate but it was just so plainly -40C that i couldnt believe it and we even looked up graphs and shit to see wtf. That was how i learned that one

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    30 degrees Fahrenheit? Hell yeah. It's practically tropical. If it's sunny as well, I'll be rolling my windows down.

    (Not me in pic, but I've been him)

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    Today is 42.2 C for me today. Then you factor humidity on top of that and it becomes like the gates of hell. Then I remember that I live in dallas and I basically already am in hell.

    The European mind can not comprehend...

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I was going to make snark remarks on the fact that a lot of people live in hostile environments and it's not super sustainable because we need climate control year round in every building and cars, but I live in Canada and it would be pretty hypocritical given the fact that I need climate control most of the year too. In fact, sometimes in winter when I watch the endless ballet of machinery burning oil to plow and move the snow, I wonder why we go through such trouble to live here.

    I guess we get used to a lot of things. However 42C is too much for my taste. I go vacationing in the Caribbean where it's usually around 30C, and it's pretty much my limit.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    What's funny is that I used to live in Phoenix for a year. I would happily take the higher dry heat over the almost as high wet heat. When I lived there it was like walking into an oven and you could feel your sweat pours opening. But the sweating evaporated quickly and provided cooling as long as you stayed hydrated. Shade works and you can see how the natives protected themselves from the sun and had passive cooling that worked. In the wet heat it is more like Satan is pissing on you and you have no hope. Your body is dumping sweat and it does nothing because the humidity is too high to evaporate. Shade? Worthless beyond the immediate sun protection. A few degrees at most. Without AC you will only cool with high winds or a fan.

    Fun fact I never knew until living there: when it hits 112 (and it does) the airport has to partially shut down and divert all non-high-temp aircraft. The tarmac is so hot it will pop normal tires at a high rate. So unless you have the expensive higher temp rated tires for planes based out of high temp areas, then you can't land there when it is too hot.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, we don't need it. People survived for hundreds of thousands of years without AC in harsh climates. Our adaptability is one of the reasons we're the dominant species.

    Those temps are not abnormal for that part of Texas in the summer. We did have a few years of relatively cool summers, though.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago*

    I grew up in Texas. I am peak millennial (dead center of the generation). I remember growing up in Houston and seeing dallas would get light snow most winters and "artic blasts" were never a thing. Heat waves never got above 104. It was a record just hitting it, and was unheard to go above it before that.

    Now? Ever year it is all but guaranteed it will get above 104. Normal snow in dallas? Nope. Ice storms from polar vortex collapse only.

    This is what climate change looks like. These temps are absolutely abnormal when you look at the hundred plus years of recorded climate data. Our adaption as a species is our technology. AC.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Less our dynamic adaptability, and more due to our evolutionary adaptations. We have several super-powers when it comes to working hard in the heat. They mainly don't work in high humidity, however.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    We do now, where we live in France we just had 44Β°. So my condolences and please stay stay safe out there.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    That sucks. Yeah - we have those temps in Texas for months at a time, but at least we have air conditioning most places.

    It's also one of the reasons development is so hostile for pedestrians and cyclists here. We design everything around taking air conditioning with us wherever we go, which leads to car-first development.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh shit. Honestly I feel more for you guys than me. We have infrastructure built for it. Everything has AC. I even just put a window unit in my bedroom to take some load off the older main unit that has been struggling to keep up. But over there you were never built for that kind of heat. I wish you all the best with climate change.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    We have that sort of heat in Australia, and use Celsius like rational people

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I am in the sciences. I support measuring in C and accept its rational design. But being American I also understand the appeal of F. Of the two scales it best describes the human experience. When we are talking about the weather and how it will impact my very human day, I want F. When I an measuring my whatever-the-fuck-else for science I want it in C.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    But being American I also understand the appeal of F.

    Only because that's what you've been exposed to. The weather report might as well have been in gibberish when they talked temperatures when I was visiting the US

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