What I Learned Debating Fascists on a Phone Sex Hotline

Call me jaded, but I thought Bryon Noem's comically large breasts were kind of underwhelming. When photos of the embattled former Secretary of State Kristi Noem’s husband leaked in March, the 56-year-old father of three could be seen in a skintight flesh-colored shirt stuffed with a pair of latex balloons each as big as his head. Security analysts warned that his spending $25,000 on online “bimbofication” fetish models left his high-ranking family vulnerable to extortion while the internet laughed. And sure, the cockeyed nipples were funny—hilarious, even. It's just that, after getting a glimpse of the modern man's psyche over several years a sex worker, I was too haunted by the familiarity of that buxom insurance executive’s joyless expression to take much pleasure in his public humiliation.


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[–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

I would be fascinated by a formal study in this field. Honestly, as an asexual person, I'm usually pretty quick to dismiss sexual psychology. But this seems like it has teeth.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I think the more pressing matter here is who's still paying $2/min for phone sex?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Retired guys mostly, according to the article. It was a very interesting read.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    One of the most successful hotline was 5.99/min. Retirees with disposable income are the main clients.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    6 dollars a minute to talk about politics on the phone. And then complain why no one wants to cuck them politically (and maybe literally in bed) while being a meek submissive woman in public. Truly a mystery.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    That was a great read. Equal parts fascinating and eloquent. Thanks for posting.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Great article and Jesus Christ people are weird. As a man with kinks this is why I don't associate with any kink communities. Y'all are fucking weird.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Definitely a new lens. I'll admit even then I was surprised reading about someone treating leftism as a kink, as if Tue idea of agreeing that the gig economy is unsustainable in a public setting is an absolute taboo.

    On men's porn sites—including gay porn sites—there is a complete absence of any kind of explicit politics. The only exception is the rare importation to support free speech." Though there are far fewer female-targeted sites, the authors say the ones that exist contain an abundance of messaging around issues like inclusivity and feminism.

    I guess that's not surprising. Unless the site itself is in danger, it's not very "sexy" to care about politics. And sexuality should (but definitely doesn't) run on a different axis to political philosophy. Everyone wants love in some form.

    But alas, that was 2012. So much changed so quickly.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Famed 20th-century physician and sexologist Iwan Bloch preached that modernity encouraged both homosexuality and masturbation (long considered the gateway to moral decline). George L. Mosse writes, "Bloch, who approved of masturbation if practiced in moderation, nevertheless saw it as a potential danger to society. The masturbator, he tells us, becomes lonely and shy and loses the natural enthusiasm of youth; his nervousness is apt to damage his heart."

    Joke's on you, I jacked off 5 mins before reading this but have thus far failed at being a danger to society

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Really worth a read, author is good with words.

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    [–] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I made three lines: an inexpensive chat line, a comparatively expensive role-playing line, and a line for flirty online chess games. This last one was my friend's suggestion; special interests sometimes made for lucrative niches (no one ever called).

    Your friend is currently devastated to learn he is literally alone in his niche.


    EDIT: another banger quote:

    Like their forebears, the gooners' focus is also on surrendering control such that they feel forced to do what they want to do anyway; it's just that what today's young progressives want to do is a lot closer to nothing at all.

    It's funny how universal the desire is to be told you have permission to do what you want to do anyway but are too afraid/ashamed to.

    Great article overall, interesting read.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    First of all, “excellent read,” indeed.

    I don’t really have anything more to add to her points.

    But I wish this woman the best life she can have, and for more to listen to her.


    Second.

    I’d consider myself a lonely guy.

    Is it weird I have zero interest in “roleplaying” calls like this for free? Much less paying a dollar a minute?

    Same with guys that spend on OF models.

    …Even my inner, depraved self just does not understand the appeal. Like I get roleplaying, I’ve written out/imagined elaborate fantasies, I get the appeal of the submissive angle, but I do not understand why other guys seek this out on such a phone call or text chain. And clearly it’s me misunderstanding something, as these services have an absolutely enormous customer base.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Article is in the correct sub. Thanks for sharing

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    This really reinforces my belief that a lot of right wing Nazi's are just hiding behind this ideology because they don't like something they consider major about themselves. You want to be dommed by a woman? Cool, literally not a big deal. You want to dress as a woman? Do it. You want to be Humiliated? Great, pay your fee or find a consenting partner and have at it! Stop fucking living in shame.

    I know living in shame has a lot more to it than that. I just feel like if people could be themselves, there would be far less hate in the world.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    "Just stop being \(depressed\|ashamed\|poor\|traumatized\|compulsive\)! Easy. Why do you cause yourself so many problems?"

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I never said it was easy. But people need to make an effort as well. Don't hang out with people who will treat you like shit for being yourself, I know some circumstances you can't but your friends aren't your friends if they don't actually like YOU. Therapy is great for most people as well.

    Like the writer of this article, I have worked in the same space. I myself did not do Only Fans but, I was an assistant to someone who did. I did promo and stuff for them across multiple platforms. Most men would say fairly quick into conversions with her that they can't be themselves in front of their friends/family.

    When she did challenge them on that, they were completely unwilling to open up to literally anyone in their lives even if they thought those people would be supportive. I'm just saying, if people make an effort through community support, therapy, self work etc. Society will be better.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Of all the things that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most.

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