In the early morning of July 1, federal immigration officers in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, pulled over a white SUV. An unmarked Immigration and Customs Enforcement car stopped in front of the SUV to block its path, while other law enforcement vehicles parked behind it, according to surveillance video obtained by CNN affiliate WGAL.

“Get out of the car now,” one officer said after he approached the driver’s side.

When the driver did not emerge after officers repeatedly ordered him out of the SUV, an officer shattered the window. The SUV then drove away, appearing to clip the ICE vehicle stopped in front of it before turning the wrong way down a one-way street. One ICE officer fired his gun as the SUV drove away from the officers and hit a parked car.

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An ICE officer discharged his weapon, and the driver escaped, the statement said.

It’s the latest example of how surveillance footage can undermine the government’s public statements, and a law enforcement expert told CNN it clearly demonstrates some of the poor tactics being used by ICE officers.

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The incident in Harrisburg occurred days before an ICE agent fatally shot a 52-year-old man during a car stop in Houston. Less than a week later, another ICE agent killed a 25-year-old man during a vehicle stop in Maine. Neither victim was the intended target of the immigration enforcement operations. The killings prompted community vigils for the victims and renewed outcry over the Trump administration’s aggressive tactics.

Following the shooting in Maine this week, the agency issued a pause on most vehicle stops conducted by ICE agents, which was swiftly overturned by President Donald Trump, who has made mass deportations a cornerstone of his second term.

Vehicle stops were not always a major component of the agency’s actions, experts told CNN, as agents would typically take people into custody from a local jail or a targeted location, such as a residence or workplace. But car stops have ramped up during Trump’s immigration crackdown, as his administration set a goal of making 2,000 immigration-related arrests a day.

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Many local law enforcement departments direct their personnel not to fire at a moving car unless there is a threat of deadly force by means other than the vehicle itself – a policy that’s also recommended by the Police Executive Research Forum, a nonpartisan policing think tank.

“Shooting at the vehicle isn’t going to stop the car – shooting the driver now turns that car into essentially an unguided missile,” Corey said. “You’ve probably created a situation of even greater danger because there’s nobody left in control of that car.”

DHS policies prohibit law enforcement officials from shooting solely to disable a moving vehicle and state that officers should only use deadly force when there’s “an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury” to the officer or another individual.

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[–] 62 points 3 months ago

Fuck those Gestapo fuckers

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  • [–] [S] 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    A more appropriate headline:

    An ICE [fascist paramilitary] fired at an SUV fleeing [an unmarked] car stop in Pennsylvania. That’s not how it should happen, policing experts say [because it endangers everyone]

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Thanks. I'm glad that the recognition of passive language titles is becoming more obvious to everyone. I'm seeing comments, like yours, calling it out more often.

    After nearly 3 years of genocide in Gaza I was going mad watching people being accepting of the "Israeli citizen kidnapped from tank" style language.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    This headline isn't passive voice, though. Passive voice would be "SUV fired at by ICE". "ICE fired at SUV" is active voice.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Sure. But you're speaking specifically about grammar. I guess I am speaking more generally about the use of passive language not nessacarily "passive voice".

    The action of violence is placed on the object instead of the person/people. It's not necessarily about strictly passive voice but removing humanity from the victims of the violent actions.

    "ICE fired at innocents fleeing in SUV" is more appropriate. It makes it clear that the intent is to cause harm to the victims. The title infers there is possibly some reason to fire shots at a moving vehicle that could be justified in the scenario. Which there wasn't.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You should be free to flee when guns are pointed at you without warning

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Glad we have "police experts" to tell us that we aren't supposed to be getting shot in the back by police.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago*

    Still missing the point, focusing on "They didn't block him good enough"

    How is one to discern this isn't an attempted car jacking? And how else would one respond when a couple of random cars try to box you in and some jackhole comes up and immediately breaks your window while screaming at you?

    Goddamn right I'm going to flee!

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Policing amateurs also say this

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago

    Earth is sphere-ish so by driving away, they were also moving toward the ICE agents and putting them in fear for their lives. Won't play well with the flat Earth segment of the base but you can jingle keys somewhere else to distract them.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    that's how they do it on tv, which is the only education and/or training these knuckle draggers ever got

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    This is what happens when you hire a bunch of unstable racist neo-Nazis.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Happened an hour away, ACAB

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    [–] 26 points 3 months ago

    ICE is a rogue agency headed by a rogue administration and no one aside from some courts and a few Congressmen are doing anything about it. In fact Congress has given them tens of billions of dollars with no oversight. This is the darkest timeline.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They're going to turn into rape gangs soon.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    ICE is begging for civilian millitia oversight

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    Yeah, if you shoot someone in the back, you're a criminal every time.

    It drives me crazy when movies depict police yelling "STOP!" and then just start shooting at someone as they run away, without any narrative of how that police just tried to murder someone who wasn't a threat to them.

    That Hollywood normalization of murder had literally brainwashed the majority of people into thinking it's acceptable and legal for police to murder people by shooting them in the back.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    In any work set before 1985 this is likely to be accurate. Most states had laws on the books called "fleeing felon laws", which specifically authorized law enforcement to shoot fleeing suspects in the back if they were suspected of a felony. SCOTUS deems that practice unconstitutional in 1985 (with some exceptions).

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Saw just that in the new Apple show Lucky. FBI guy goes blasting away at 90lb girl who running away. Especially fucked up when his boss said not to pull guns wanted her alive. But most movies normalize it so that we will think it okay and normal.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Did the cop loose their job or face any criminal charges in the show?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    The punishment for fleeing police can never and should never be getting murdered.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Hah, you think those ICE officers give a shit about what experts say?

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 3 months ago

    A more appropriate headline:

    An ICE [fascist paramilitary] fired at an SUV fleeing [an unmarked] car stop in Pennsylvania. That’s not how it should happen, policing experts say [because it endangers everyone]

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Oh God, the expert is ex NYPD.

    You have to *really" fuck up to get criticism from NYPD..

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Jesus Christ, they're criticizing them for poorly placing the car. Not for shooting at someone who is not posing a threat (running away)

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    You know what else shouldn't happen? The existence of ICE.

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    [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    "Not how it should happen"

    The copaganda is unreal in this country. Imagine describing attempted murder this way in any other circumstance.

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