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[–] 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Vette's are basically just a Chevy small block with wheels and a fiberglass shell. They're very fast and they corner extremely well with such a low center of gravity. They are a pain in the ass to maintain though.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The new ones corner well. The old ones, well, pull up some of the old top gear episodes where they tested vets on their courses.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    They handled well for the time they were manufactured. Comparing old cars to new ones like that isn't really fair. Even a modern Honda Accord could outperform a C3 or older Corvette in every category. The difference in aerodynamics, suspension, and materials technologies, plus computer control, makes that big of a difference.

    Matter of fact, if I remember correctly, a modern Honda Accord Sport has a faster Nurburgring lap time than an R34 Skyline, which was one of the fastest production cars of the 90s. That's how quickly car technology advances.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I wasn't comparing them to a modern vehicle. Even for vehicles of their time they really didn't corner well. Corvettes were meant and designed to go fast and a straight line but they weren't designed to corner very well. Not until the newer mid engine ones.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Whats the joke here? Im not a car person.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'm assuming the guy on the right's engine is extremely worn in order for valve float to be occurring and that is very much Not A Good Thing (will lead to engine damage once a piston contacts a valve)

    So basically they're beating the new car guy in an old worn shitbox

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    valve float can happen for all sorts of reasons; revving too high, bad lubrication, cam geometry, wrong springs... but if it has float now and didn't before then yeah it's definitely wear.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago*

    Valve float is when the cylinder valves are unable to close completely between cycles, usually due to high RPMs beyond the engine's design, but possibly due to very high mileage, often well beyond 100-150k miles. This meme refers to the former.

    Longer, more detailed explanation:

    Internal combustion engines use something called poppet valves to control the flow of fuel and exhaust into and out of an engine cylinder. A poppet valve is generally a disc shaped, tapered plug atop a longer shaft called the valve stem. The stem runs through a stout spring, then through a hole in a disc attached toward the bottom. Valves are opened by being pressed by their stems, popping up toward the cylinder chamber to open whilst compressing their springs, then being released so the spring can push the valve closed again.

    If an engine is driven to rotational speeds beyond its design, the springs may not have enough compressive force to fully control the valves. The valves begin to 'float', where they can be bounced open, opening too far, then are unable to completely close before being bounced open again. This can cause a number of issues, ranging from power loss to catastrophic failure. In high performance engines, this is prevented by stronger springs paired with a stronger, more precise system capable of handling the force required to open them.

    The meme is describing someone presumably driving a shitbox car pushed well past its limits to ourperform a high performance vehicle. It's definitely an exaggeration as most vehicles would break well before producing that much force.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    the joke is that they'll literally cook the planet, knowing each stroke of the engine is putting out more CO2 that will cause the planet to heat further while choking their own kids with pollution, haha, and they'll do it for fun.

    the cult of vroom vroom is gonna kill this species because these smooth brained fuckwits can't enjoy other forms of entertainment.

    lol@the vroomies downvoting.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    As a daily Corvette driver I virtual fist bump every shit box owner out there. I've been there and I love you guys. And to every Prius owner giving me the evil eye? I'll make out with every one of you because your a better person than me. And total cost of ownership of my Corvette is half that of my friends Model S and it isn't a bore to drive either.

    Also, fuck GM, their never getting a dollar from me again after their superPAC donations. And old men vette owners are REALLY WEIRD.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I’ll make out with every one of you

    yeah I think they've already revealed their feelings about pollution, take the fuckin hint.

    And old men vette owners are REALLY WEIRD.

    it's probably brain damage from all the co2 you end up breathing.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    So this week I learned about putting a Prius engine in an Echo, and swapping the intake cam...and wow that thing flies.

    https://youtu.be/Ro21EWVZJUo

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (25 children)

    They obviously don’t have an EV! So much torque and so much fun!

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    Just got mine 2 weeks ago and it truly is a game changer. I don't think I could see myself going back to an ICE vehicle ever again.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    And the ride is just so god damned smooth.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    But no vroom sound and clutch, _,

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Slightly different topic, but I can't wait for vroom sound to fuck off. Every single night, I have jackasses making their big, strong, manly, vroom vroom sounds by my apartment, and doing wheelspins. Can't wait for that to be taken away over the next 20-ish years by cars simply not making that noise, and being electronically incapable of making wheelspins.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Yea let's punish everybody because you have shitty neighbours, instead of punishing the shitty neighbours...

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I said nothing about punishing anyone. It's just the natural way this is going to go. In 20 years, you won't see a lot of ICE cars, therefore, you won't hear a lot of annoying car noises.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'd fucking better still be able to do a burnout you're describing dystopia. Electric cars can easily produce burnout torque, give me the impression of shifting and I'm all in. The simplicity of electric driving bores me until I'm driving like an absolute bogan, downshifting and punching the throttle in my 5spd Forester is way more fun at 30mph than going 120 in a straight line.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I still want to get a speaker on the outside that has the sound of a toddler making revving noises whenever I peel out

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I have an employee who leased a Kia EV. He was super happy, saying how it was a whole new world, NEVER going back.

    Few weeks ago his wipers stopped working. No big deal, drop it off, get it fixed. Been there for almost a month. Now they're talking about wiping each individual computer module and reloading in order to get it working again. Dealer has been working with corporate who engaged their engineering teams because nobody knows why the fuck the wipers won't work.

    I am all for EVs, would love one myself. However, it seems that the EV revolution arrived at the same time that the "overly complex for no benefit" revolution did. Also, add in creepy cyber-stalking via unwanted telemetry and I'm just not into it. I don't want to be a luddite who refuses to get with the times, but aside from instant torque, there are not a lot of upsides.

    Make something that works, make something reasonably priced and fucking TURN OFF THE CREEPY TELEMETRY and maybe I'll reconsider.

    Ha ha, we all know that's not going to happen. Too many revenue streams from service/repair and the money they get from selling your behavioral patterns to every asshole with a few bucks.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    That's worrisome about the wipers, as is the telemetry. I think my dashboard is Android based, so I wonder if there's any way to sideload APKs for AdAway or something similar. I managed to net a '24 Ioniq 5 Limited, and due to overflow of repaired/rejuvenated ICCU buybacks, got it for $25k. In my case, it was just the 12v battery that needed replacement.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, in every objective way better.

    Though it is oddly understated. You put pedal down, you feel it in your gut but it just does it without drama. No roar, no shifting, just immediate "here you go".

    I see that Hyundai made the equivalent of cards in the spokes, fake roar, fake shifting. As stupid as that is, it might be an option to feel a bit more of the "drama" of fast ICE.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I used to drive manuals till I got a caravan and started burning clutches. I moved to automatics for towing as it was just easier all round. The shift to an EV was another easy change.

    The lack of drama while driving seems to be a big thing for enthusiasts however I hear the road noise and have decided that it is good not to be contributing unnecessarily to it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    If the enthusiasts get interior speakers to vroom at them, fine. The ones where they point the speakers to the world though...

    But ultimately, after the entire history of cars being "vroom means fast", I think it is a tough pill for them to swallow that it isn't a necessary facet of going fast.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Demented boomers in EVs will kill so many people. Imagine a 2.5 metric ton machine flying trough a T intersection straight into a home because the braindead driver slammed the throttle instead of the brakes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    One pedal driving will become the norm. Like a go-kart you take the foot off the accelerator and the regen braking cuts in. Effectively, the brakes aren’t used a lot.

    Another change is that they accelerate so quickly that people running the red light run a real risk of being tboned by an EV.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but once boomer ICE driving instincts wil kick in they think they have to slam the brakes and hit the accelerator when their demented brains fails them.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    As a biker with no bike lanes I detest them both

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Drivers didn't spend over 50 years secretly buying and dismantling public transit, forming zoning boards, and lobbying Congress to build car-centric infrastructure using tax dollars from everyone, including non-drivers; billionaires and corporations did those things. If you're going to detest people, detest them. The people driving are just doing their best to get by using the only system they've ever known.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Oh I know it, and it's not the drivers I hate... Unless they are coal rolling and/or trying to run me off the road, which is way more common than you would think. Car companies and lobbyists started it, but some people where I live seem to want to end it/me.

    I hate that the state DOT won't just figure out how to put in bike lanes. It's the antithesis of their MO, which seems to be highway widening. If it's one or the other (doesn't have to be!) then that makes me and my agenda extra threatening, I guess.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    No bike lane means you can use center of the traffic lane. Its almost safer sometimes then the unprotected bike lane...

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Good info, but I'm not trying to make enemies of drivers either. I call myself a "bike ambassador" and I try hard to be respectful of everybody on the road.

    Honestly, since moving to my current spot I bike so much less because it's perilous. Several bikers die every year in my area due to car/truck/dump truck crashes. Maybe this is my cue to move to Portland. Or Montreal.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    I dont want to make enemies either, but at least in pa thats just the law, bicycles must be on the street, and if no bike lane is there they use the regular lane. They can stay centered, and a car needs 4 feet of clearance to legally pass them.

    Dont get me wrong, most drivers dont know that and are assholes so i stay to the side whens its safe, etc etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago
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