I'm not as anti-AI as the rest of this place but I am 100% in favor of being honest about it.

I found a mod passing off AI generated images as authentic, vintage sci-fi covers. I asked why they were mixing them together and was not only banned but they deleted my comment.

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[–] 105 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

What a fucking douche.

I already have him blocked because of his low quality content, so apparently that was good judgment.

His reasoning for creating fake content is that lemmy needs more content.

no dumbass, it needs more quality content to make up for your shitty content.

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  • [+] -16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It is an instance where fake content is allowed. So why should they abide by your standards?

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    Oh that's just universal monk /mod of a thousand names being him.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Collection of authentic niche communities > drowning in slop.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    Kind of sad that they can't see what they are doing is rather selfish of them. They seem to justify it by saying its harmless fun, but I don't see how intentionally mixing in Ai images with authentic images is anything but malicious. It probably doesnt help Ai "leaders" like elon musk and Prager U are doing the same thing and just replacing history with weird racist the south won the war shit. So these people don't see how destructive they are to the internet, because the people they look up to spit on the internet daily. I can only assume hes a elon fan due to the heavy space themes.

    They also don't see themselves as pro ai or anti Ai, but just a person existing inbetween the precieved "drama" which is kind of an easy out for being a shitty person and not having to justify their actions.

    I think a person like this is just selfish and would steal candy from a baby if that was their favorite candy. Kind of like the inability to think of someone else, due to the obsession about the self.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago

    They also don’t see themselves as pro ai or anti Ai, but just a person existing inbetween the precieved “drama”

    From my experience, the majority of people saying "Oh I don't have an opinion about AI" are the ones excessively talking with ChatGPT.

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  • [+] -22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Have you read the rules of the instance?

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You say that as if I'm not allowed to talk shit in another instance for no reason.

    And no I did not read the rules because I didn't really care to check it out. I clicked on one persons profile to try to find the comment and seen their long comment thread but that's about it.

    One thing I feel sympathy for is he feels the need to use Ai to populate the instance to make it feel less dead. To me that means their goal is to try to improve this place and this is a shared passion between many users. I'm still new here so maybe I'm being too harsh and don't get proper manners for this platform, but I don't think that I shouldn't avoid saying something because of it. And what does it matter anyways? Its like shouting to the void. I'm not there in his domain getting banned or shit talking them, and if I did I would expect to get banned and that's their right.

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  • [+] -22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Why? AI slop is allowed on the instance. Nothing power tripping about it.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I asked why they were mixing them together and was not only banned but they deleted my comment.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Then tell me why they shouldn't be allowed to be mixed. Nothing in the community says they aren't allowed.

    Most likely deleted cause they are tired of these anti-ai brigading leaking over into communities that don't care.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    So what you’re saying is that @Papaskwat@lemmy.today is a dishonest individual?

    Cool, fucker is now blocked.

    AI has a place but the majority do not know how to use to correctly. Their ignorance is the problem hence they are a problem. :/

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  • [+] -30 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    No, they aren't a dishonest individual.

    They are posting AI to an instance where AI is allowed. Nothing dishonest about it.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago

    AI being allowed is one thing. If a community wants to allow it then that's their business, I don't care.

    AI being unlabeled is quite another and misleading at best. Again, a community may choose to not have this requirement, but that doesn't change the fact that it's misleading.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    I do think that unlabeled AI on a federated platform is a little irresponsible, even though the community embraces it. It's not about the rules, it's about whether viewers - many of whom won't be subscribers to the community - are misled into thinking the publications are real.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    I don't mind GenAI posts myself, but they should be clearly tagged as such which isn't hard to do.

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  • [+] -26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

    How about you don't go to instances where AI is allowed to complain about AI?

    These are the rules of the sub:

    The future was yesterday.

    Rule 1: No serial downvoting or trolling just because you don’t like AI.

    Rule 2: AI is fine. If it looks cool, it is cool, babe!

    Rule 3: Be civil.

    Rule 4: Do not call content “slop,” or use similar insults, unless you also contribute content yourself.

    If you don’t like these rules, I suggest you create you own community with your own rules. Lemmy can always use more content!

    If you can't stand it, then I'd suggest you read the last line.

    This community really likes to police other instances, doesn't it?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Doesn't matter if AI is allowed. This is about being dishonest and passing off AI as real authentic vintage art and then banning the person bringing attention to it.

    If it was allowed and the mod wasn't trying to hide it they wouldn't have banned the account or deleted the comment.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They aren't passing off shit as authentic vintage art.

    They saw a cool image that fits the community and posted it. Nowhere in the community does it say AI isn't allowed nor that it needs to be labeled.

    They banned the account because some rando went mental about something nobody in that community cares about. They aren't trying to hide anything. Stop making shit up.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    If they weren't paying it off as vintage art then the question wouldn't be offensive. The ban and deletion of the comment specifically suggests that they don't want others to know that the art they are posting is AI.

    Otherwise there's literally no reason to ban someone for asking questions.

    I'm not making anything up. That's literally the facts of the situation as they were presented.

    And you're trying to defend them so hard I have to assume you are one of their alts.

    Edit: Using this persons comment as a way to highlight the rules of the sub would have been a better use of the time of both the mod and the rest of the subs users.

    Also, how do you know they 'found some cool art' rather than having generated it themselves?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    As much as anything, he lies in the comments saying it's not AI, which is just dumb.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Where do they say it is not AI?

    They say they don't care if it is AI or not. Like plenty in that community.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't complain. I didn't call it slop. I asked a question. I'm not anti-AI, I just want it properly labeled so people know what they're looking at. Passing off AI generated covers alongside real covers and not distinguishing is just plain dishonest. Claiming to have found them on an old hard drive is a brazen lie.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Nowhere in the rules of the community does it say it needs to be labeled.

    That you require that is completely on you. It isn't a lie. No matter how much you would like that.

    Just by reading the rules it is obvious that community would have a ton of AI vintage images.

    It is like going to an animal picture community and complaining why the bear pictures aren't labeled because you have a fear of them. Even though in the rules it clearly states bear pictures are allowed and don't need to be labeled.

    It is kind of selfish.

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