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[–] 48 points 4 months ago*

“You must choose between the climate and our huge piles of dirty money,” they mean

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago

    I really don't understand how these rich fuckers think. I guess it is they have never really had any consequences for any action and so they do not see the long term harm.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    And we chose the climate, bye bye.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Was my thought as well. Like, how thankful of the billionaires to give us yet another good reason to dump them.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Sounds like a very easy decision to me.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Climate - next question

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    This is excellent framing. What's terrifying is that the side offering it is the one betting on "burn the climate".

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Bullshit!
    Just build more renewable energy sources and battery storage.
    The grid doesn't support the rising needs?
    Build the sources and storage yourself or fuck off!
    But stop whining you stupid, lobbying assholes!

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    How is that even a question

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Also, the tobacco lobby urges Europe to choose between cancer or cigarettes.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    They'll choose AI to micromanage us because of the climate.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Wait. I thought so is so good, it solves climate change? /s

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Not a fan of "POLITICO."

    Climate is more important vital. AI is not.

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    [–] 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It shouldn't even be a possible choice, nothing should ever be more important than not destroying the planet. And AI is waaaaaaaay down the list of things that have any kind of weight on the other side of a choice.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I just don't understand how the systemic thinking of these people work. The environment holds up both people and the economy. And while people always need some kind of economy to specialize and form a modern society, economic goals should always be subject to people's priorities. We can disagree on common good or individual rights, but ultimately the dominant dependencies seem pretty clear to me: you cannot live a modern life with a functioning economy if your environment is in shambles.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Seems like a straightforward choice to me.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Tech sector says only carbon-emitting gas plants are reliable enough today to power the EU’s AI goals.

    🤣🤣🤣🤡

    Add to that the fact that most of the gas in Europe comes from the US. Some AI sovereignty that.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Is that an ultimatum? Bye

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Then no data centers, I guess.

    But the most power hungry part is the training stage. Use solar and train them during the day time, because that doesn't depend on being operational non stop.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 3 months ago

    I don't agree with the datacenter lobby and I firmly believe that the EU is more than capable of screwing up both things at the same time.

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    [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    You can have “AI” or a future.

    The world at large: “Hmmm… pfffft, aww, geez… that’s a really tough one…”

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Canada has already shown any climate goals the door in favour of AI. In particular, Meta is building a 1GW AI data centre in Alberta which is already very dependent on oil and gas revenue.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I guess: F Europe then

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