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I updated my dishwasher’s firmware (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 4 months ago by Reverendender@sh.itjust.works to c/Dullsters@dullsters.net

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Now that it's finally plugged in again. I just finished moving the socket I had wired up further to the right so I could put one of the cabinets I pulled out during installation next to it. Which necessitated making the cabinet structurally sound, because these cabinets are crap. Which required shoring up and leveling the counter. Before which I had to pull the new sink out again and remount it correctly.

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[–] kungen@feddit.nu 29 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Why does a dishwasher need to download firmware updates? I suddenly feel really old.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works [S] 7 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

I….dont know. They were saying stuff about intelligent cycles or something. Who knows if it's true.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (6 children)

It's all malarkey. Technology connections has good videos on dishwashers and how to optimize their performance

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works [S] 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I watched that before I bought this. I do the things. It gets my dishes clean. It tells me when it's done. Bing bang boom. That's all I need.

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[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

I have a dishwasher that does all those things without using the internet at all.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 4 months ago

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[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lol you watched a video about why you shouldn't buy one of these... And you still bought one?

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works [S] 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

Dunno what you mean. I watched this video on how to get the most out of your dishwasher. These are the things I do, and it all, works great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0

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[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social -4 points 4 months ago

So it says but the cheapest pods money can buy, not to buy an iot dishwasher.

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[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 1 point 4 months ago

stuff about intelligent cycles

They're called motorcycles smh

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[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 50 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Why in the world would a dishwasher need firmware?

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[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 38 points 4 months ago

Possibly to patch the security vulnerability they didn't tell you about. Which could, in theory, prevent your dish washer from mining bitcoin after it was comprised.

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[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 25 points 4 months ago* (6 children)

To operate the hardware. We’ve had firmware as long as we’ve had electronics.

The real question is: Why does a dishwasher need to be connected to the internet? That just opens it up to all sorts of online threats and creates more problems than it solves.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Like that one time a chemical plants internal systems were hacked through a coffee machine.

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[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If it’s connected, it can be hacked. All you need is an Internet connection and some skill.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

Speaking as a professional: if the chemical plant itself was hacked through a coffee machine, then several other people have already thoroughly fucked the Swiss cheese and the entire IT infrastructure needs to be audited. Devices in a public area should NEVER have been allowed to talk to production machines in the first place.

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[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it sounds like it was a disaster waiting to happen.

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[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

A casino was hacked by via an aquarium thermometer

https://thehackernews.com/2018/04/iot-hacking-thermometer.html

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[–] HansGruber@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

About the connection to the internet... Eh I've got no idea. But if your home starts the dishwasher when the pv delivers enough power or the battery is full then it's useful. That doesn't need to be public to the internet or an connection to the outside. Just an open API.

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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 7 points 4 months ago

To get instructions from your refrigerator that is already part of a botnet.

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

So they can introduce monthly subscriptions?

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[–] leds@feddit.dk 4 points 4 months ago

.. To update the firmware if course!

You might ask why do you need to update the firmware , well to fix vulnerabilities from being connected to the internet.

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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago

The latest firmware tells the manufacturer what you ate, and with how many you where. Now it can also discuss with the fridge the vitamins and calories you had and determine together what needs to be in stock.

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[–] cramola@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

Don’t forget to keep enjoying the benefits of connectivity.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I really like how lots of appliance manufacturers skipped from basic circuitry and the occasional relay straight to networked slop with a controller app.

What happend to quality embeded programming? My old TV had an optional firmware update feature through a USB stick if for some reason the well tested factory software wasn't up to spec on something.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Meanwhile I actively try not to update anything that isn't strictly necessary.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Keep enjoying the benefits of connectivity.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works [S] 6 points 4 months ago

It gets really ominous when you read it as an order, rather than encouragement.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Dishwashers shouldn't need firmware.

Add the dishes. Add the soap. Press the button. Wait like 40 minutes. Now you have clean dishes.

What's to update?

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[–] qupada@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

I'd have been pretty happy to be able to update it to fix the dishwasher that came with our house.

It could not, no matter what you did, resume a cycle. If it was paused for any reason, the only way out was to power it off and start a new wash.

The drain pump also sounded like shaking a soup can full of nuts and bolts, which contributed more to it being replaced than did the shonky electronics.

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[+] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world -22 points 4 months ago

Your pad sounds like a shit hole.