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[–] 116 points 4 months ago (5 children)

From what im seeing people are looking at steam/linux as an alternative not windows. With the RAM shortage, windows is probably the worst solution out of the available options.

Either way it sucks to get rid of the only way to get used games anymore. Im hoping this kicks back more and we see more partnerships with companies like limited run games and others who do physical releases. https://megacatstudios.com/products/zpf for example.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    My question becomes what would limited run games create the games to play on in the future? PS6 will likely not have a physical game option if I had to guess. Nintendo Switch 2 just came out, so that may be the last console to support physical games. I guess we’d be stuck using old machines. Given how powerful current systems are, that may be enough for indie studios.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I guess we’d be stuck using old machines. Given how powerful current systems are, that may be enough for indie studios.

    The Evercade is proactively selling cartridge first game systems and games.

    The available hardware is more retro focused, in power level, but everything in the line runs on every available device (outside of some license bullshit by Capcom and Namco, which I think they cleared up).

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I can’t see these gaining more popularity over Steam, PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo if they are only sticking to do retro. From my understanding, most indie companies want maximum reach for their games, especially for the amount of time and money they put into things.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I can’t see these gaining more popularity over Steam, PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo if they are only sticking to do retro.

    Right. I don't think they are particularly trying for those markets - although Sony dropping physical media of any kind is probably doing Evercade a favor anyway.

    I carry my Hyper Mega Tech Pocket more often than my SteamDeck or Switch Lite, because it is so much smaller.

    From my understanding, most indie companies want maximum reach for their games, especially for the amount of time and money they put into things.

    Yes. Evercade's gimick is multiple games per cart, rather than exclusives.

    Some of my Indie game collection I got cheaper by buying it on Evercade. Some idie devs I have only discovered because they included a game on Evercade.

    A few I have bought again on my SteamDeck, to add it to my family library.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago*

    I mean it's a no brainer. if you are forced digital anyway, PC has both steam and gamepass (for pc or ultimate if you also have an xbox). Why lock yourself into an ecosystem that provides no value, when you can go into an ecosystem that not only provides you with most of the Xbox catalog if you want to pay a sub, but also all of the other PC storefronts.

    The only reason people ever went console was for the low price, exclusives, the convienence and the physical market. The exclusives have sucked, the price is no longer low, and the physical market has been nuked by an atom bomb.

    The question Sony should really be asking here is "why do people buy into our market" because they are actively destroying it.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago

    Hey! If you're used to not being able to play some games, use Linux. It is much more efficient which you can use to avoid upgrades, more powerful cards, etc.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Just get a Linux distro and throw some PC parts together and you'll be better off with that then W11 or shitbox.

    DDR3 should still be fairly ok for a starter PC.

    Plenty of good old games run very well on Linux and older hardware.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    My gaming machine is still using DDR3. Never really saw a reason to upgrade, games mostly became more demanding in the graphics-sector, even the first-gen i5 is doing reasonably well with most games, even newer ones. And if not, I blame badly optimized games.

    RAM speed usually is the last thing you have to worry about in games.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    It is now the moment for Valve to announce that they have come up with a way to let you sell/exchange games between users on Steam. They do this and they eat the whole market.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    ...don't...don't they already have this feature? Steam Family allows you to share libraries of games with your "family members".

    And unlike Nintendo with their Virtual Game Card two-week limit, you can share Steam games forever AFAIK.

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  • Yeah, but I meant something like actually trading. Not just sharing in the family group. Imagine I have a game I've completed, I don't want it anymore and you want to play it. We're not in the same family group, so I offer you to trade it for a game of your library, or maybe we make a deal and you pay me some money for it so you are in a way, purchasing it second-hand from me.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    And what does it help to turn to microslop? They will just bury you in subscriptions and data steal?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (13 children)
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    I'm amazed there's an audience for a windows site. Linux? Yeah, give me more. Mac, I guess. But windows? I haven't heard any news that aren't bad since forever.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Lemmy is overwhelmingly anti Windows

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yes. Exactly! That's why we're so die hard into Linux, here.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    That doesn't explain arch users

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Nothing explains Arch users, they're a mystery.

    SolutiomI mean, obviously the Arch Wiki probably has a detailed page explaining Arch users, of course.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Masochists exist, explanation provided.

    Seriously you couldn't pay me to use arch, but then no one would because I would never get any actual work done I'd spend so much time fighting the operating system

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    The disc at this stage is somewhat symbolic, its the line that sand against the anti consumer practices being pushed by the platforms.

    We have trusted them and during that they have:

    • They have sleptwalked users into accepting digital over physical.
    • They have infiltrated many areas of game production and monopolized
    • They have normalised subscriptions for many areas of gameplay....

    And now they are getting pretty bold of what they want.

    • You will have to verify your identity
    • The products you 'bought' can be taken away from you at the platforms discretion
    • You will have to be online to play the products you purchased...and you will need to pay for that service.
    • They can charge what they want for the games and there is no competition to weaken prices
    • You will pay more for your device with less features

    They are testing the tolerance with this. This is not about the physical disc. Its about saying enough!

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    Save about $100 and your sanity by using Linux over Windows

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    as popular as diy and linux are on lemmy, pre-builts are still bought by more gamers; and those almost always include windows.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    It only saves your sanity if you have a full AMD build. Otherwise, you better be an IT pro or have the time and inclination to do a lot of learning. Nvidia drivers are notoriously problematic with Linux

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Not anymore. I'd say there has been massive improvements in the last 3-5 years for Nvidia. This was one of the main reasons I didn't swap over sooner.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Guess stop this nonsense. There are plenty of Nvidia issues.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    What nonsense? I've used nvidia since the early 2000s. There are no more issues than AMD right now.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's 2026. I still am yelled at by nerds about issues in Linux that apparently didn't exist 🤣

    You people are the reason Linux will never be mainstream. The inability to admit any sort of bug or luck or driver support from a nerd is astounding.

    I know I know, get a different distro and I'm holding it wrong.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Nvidia hasn't been an issue for like 10 years.

    It's super easy to install either the open or proprietary nvidia drivers on most distros nowadays.

    And KDE with Wayland works great on nvidia GPUs.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Stopn taking. There are regular NVidia issues. I don't even get reliable HDMI handshakes and HDMI passthrough doesn't work.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You got an abnormal issue, and I would help you troubleshoot if you'd like.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    This was kind but not the point. I spend 40 hours a week contributing and fixing shit (Devops+SE work) I can deal with an HDMI handshake failing because fuck Windows and I've done lfs ages ago. It's not abnormal, this is copium.

    Most users, especially non technical are not going to deal with this bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    I've been using Linux with various GPUs (AMD, nvidia, and integrated) and various distros since 2008 and I've never had this issue.

    I worked in a place that built and maintained computers with Linux installed and again never seen the issue you describe.

    The hardest time I ever had whit a GPU was back when I was using Ubuntu on an AMD card back in 2008. And the hardest thing then was figuring out what repo to use as newb.

    Builds with an integrated GPU in the CPU with a different dedicated GPU used to be difficult until bumblebee came about and now they couldn't be easier.

    It is true that people might have to read error messages every now and then, but in the open source community, error message make sense and you can research them entirely yourself.

    I don't doubt that you are having an issues, it may be something as simple as your hardware is too new for the distro release you have installed and you should update. However, to say that everyone will have some weird issue is wrong.

    I've convinced about 5 friends and neighbors (one over 70) to switch to Linux in the past 2 years. All I did was provide install media and help them boot to it. They figured the rest out and didn't have issues either.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago

    This post brought to you by, Microsoft

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Anything but Linux…

    I don’t see why they don’t at least try it, it’s free.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    My most recent switch for my desktop was Fedora. Super simple to install steam and most games I have tried so far work. Happy to try other flavors as well because they all have cool features worth exploring. Happy to try anything new. Suggest you all do the same just like Winnie suggests.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The last thing I want is AAA game studios supporting Linux due to a max exodus of Windows users, because that means they'll shoehorn their kernel anticheat into proton. Keep that shit away from my work machines. If the capability is included at all, then it will become a vector for nasty exploits.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I can't see how they'd do it, proton gets installed by the steam client. That client doesn't run with root privilege, so at the very least they'd have to trigger a password dialog which would be highly obvious.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago

    The average Windows user will happily click "yes" on the UAC prompt when it pops up, so I don't think it would be that conspicuous to someone who isn't technical. I'm also pretty sure PolicyKit could get involved but I've never messed with it.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Because it's still a mess. Only technical users are going to stick with it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    just when was the last time you even saw a linux distro? Ubuntu runs like a smart phone now within the last year of updates.

    srsly its just icon buttons now. the need for terminal is all but a distant memory now for the average user.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Daily steamdeck and bazzite user. Devops + SE 40 hours a week 🤷‍♂️. I'm regularly in the terminal fixing stuff.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Then perhaps you're overthinking it. that is not uncommon for tech types BTW. I've seen more inefficient program code from so called 'geniuses' than anything and I just can't help put my head in my hands whenever they go off like you are rn.

    Kuz a child or boomer grandparent could easily run ubuntu and probably never ever have to call IT unless something actually physically busted on their puter. Linux is smart enough to tell them what is wrong.

    The fact it told me clear errors such as a drive has days before it's toast was an amazing experience after working blind in windows. Someone computer illiterate could just haul their box and throw it at the geek squad and just tell them to hook up a new drive.

    Unlike windows: 'it broke. Go fish.'.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Abandon Xbox for Windows 11?

    So leaving one toxic boyfriend just to get with another?

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  • [–] 81 points 4 months ago (20 children)

    People... Windows and Xbox is not an improvement (it can be even worse). Build a Linux Gaming PC, that's true freedom.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    The main appeal of consoles is that you can essentially just plug and play without having to worry too much about extra configuration. As much as I like Linux, it’s generally not a good alternative for console folks who just want to relax and play video games.

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    A lot of Linux works out of the box now. If folks started selling preconfigured Linux machines like you can buy for windows, that's all most people need. Valve is following a good strategy

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I'll admit, I don't play games with intrusive anti-sheet, but frankly, I don't remember the last time I had to configure a game on Linux because they mostly run out of the box for me

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It’s on a case-by-case basis of course so it wouldn’t be the same for everyone. But generally speaking, Linux isn’t user-friendly (though I’m not saying it isn’t at all) in the sense that everything is guaranteed to be compatible with it and work immediately, whether it be certain peripherals that require extra setup to work correctly or software that was never specifically made to work on Linux. I know that from experience, having had some head-scratcher moments when trying to run an obscure/older game or trying to get certain hardware to run on my Linux machine without it having had compatible firmware out of the box. And I wouldn’t even say that I’m all that unknowledgeable with this sort of thing.

    I’m not trying to disparage Linux or anything, but it’s definitely not so black-and-white as it easily working well for everyone all the time. It’s never really accommodated for that unfortunately, especially since there’s no one universal Linux distro with all those sore points snuffed out. Until that’s the case I don’t think it would typically appeal to the average person who only games on the side.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    what youre saying is important and true in certain cases, yes. In mine it took me 2 months to adapt my brain and tweak linux to the point it is now working like a well oiled machine.

    however my needs were very explicit being that i was building a simulation machine (not AI) i even had it planned down to hardware spec regarding cores, chips and ram for a very specific task outside average gamer use.

    your average user might just need a basic game box (they could even just reuse a crap box and itll run. thats the beauty of linux. ) and throw some mint on it which does work pretty much out of the box and with steam you might need some light configuring.

    EG: just editing the launch command in general tab when you right click the game:

    SteamDeck=1 %command%

    or install gamemode and then: gamemoderun %command%

    for some games especially old ones you might need to just swap around which proton you use(in compatability menu)

    most games dont need any of this as the proton GE updates to iron out all the compatibilty.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    But generally speaking, Linux isn’t user-friendly (though I’m not saying it isn’t at all) in the sense that everything is guaranteed to be compatible with it and work immediately, whether it be certain peripherals that require extra setup to work correctly or software that was never specifically made to work on Linux.

    On the hardware side, you're really just describing custom PC builds. Pre-built Linux gaming machines exist and do solve the hardware issues.

    On the software side, outside of the big asshole publishers, it's a solved problem. Five years ago I shopped super carefully for SteamDeck compatibility. Today, OS compatibility is rarely even a consideration for me. Games just work on the SteamDeck. SteamOS has replaced Windows as the gaming default OS.

    Indie devs now use game development frameworks that work perfectly on Linux, in order to get SteamDeck verified.

    Even most of my "Windows Only" games just pull the correct emulators and run perfectly, automatically, when launched from Steam.

    Gaming on Linux is a very different world, today.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    This is what the Gabe Cube and Steam Deck are for. Price rises have been unfortunate and normies aren't going to consider those anymore. I guess the Nintendo Switch 2 with some game cartridges might be their next choice......although this is obviously a huge mistake if the point was to find a company with consumer friendly practices.

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  • [+] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I have a 360 with an rgh mod and a 2tb HDD in it.... It's fucking amazing! I have it running running Aurora and I've got literally every single game on 360 worth giving a shit about.

    I also have an old PS3 running HEN (soft mod - works on every revision and every firmware) on it, that I keep around exclusively for PlayStation exclusives

    7th Gen is God tier!

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    PC is PC.
    For the first step it doesnt matter what OS you run.
    Your issue is the second step.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    True. But anyone installing on a bare metal build should seriously consider installing Linux, today. The set of games that actually run simpler on Windows is getting thinner every year.

    There's mostly fear driving the decision, and most people fear Linux more than they need to, and don't fear Microsoft's apathy toward their custom PC build outcomes as much as they should.

    With all the license unlock bullshit, my last bare metal Windows install was a bigger pain in the ass than any of my recent bare metal Linux installs.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    It's still a mess. Only ready for technical users. Not even in the same ballpark for Xbox.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It's still a mess. Only ready for technical users. Not even in the same ballpark for Xbox.

    Tell me don't have a SteamDeck without telling me you don't have a SteamDeck.

    Unless you just mean building a PC, in general. Sure. Building a gaming PC isn't for everyone.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Steamdeck has numerous issues as the best case and is embedded AMD. Flakey Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, dealing with decky breaking every few weeks. Inconsistent resolution scaling issues on desktop mode.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    I mean, I'll agree 100% that docking a SteamDeck has been hit and miss, depending on the game. I have about the same annoyances docking a SteamDeck as docking a laptop. I'm not angry at Valve or Windows about that, but I am very impressed with Nintendo.

    I haven't had more wifi issues with SteamDeck than with my Switch or Switch Lite, or with a typical laptop.

    I don't use SteamDeck desktop mode, except to install my free copy of Luanti, so I cannot comment.

    Now, when we dive into specific games - mutiplayer code varies wildly between games on PC, and SteamDeck is still much closer to a PC expeirence, in that regard. If that's your point, I'm with you 100%.

    A "Steam Remote Play Verified" badge would go a long way!

    Edit: Decky is a mod right? I haven't had anything on my SteamDeck break every few weeks.

    Oh! We did have a long running bug where various network stuff never worked quite right after waking from hybernation, which I fixed by rebooting after any time I let the deck sit for awhile.

    That was patched pretty recently. It never bothered me much (once I understood the solution was a reboot) because the boot time is like 20 seconds.

    I admit, I am pretty technical, but guessing that it might need a reboot after hybernation is something I think I learned from gaming on a Windows laptop.

    Still, to your point, a better experience for folks coming from PC gaming than coming directly from console gaming.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, Decky is a third party plugin loader that you can install on SteamOS. I've been using it for 3 or 4 years now. As long as you're not dumb enough to update the OS before a Decky update is available, there really aren't any issues with Decky breaking anything.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I think it’s like most things, 1% are loud and the rest will accept it

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I think the percentage may be higher, but people who like physical media are more likely to be people who buy things second-hand and people who buy much fewer games, but keep playing them for much longer. Sony simply doesn't care about them, because the ones who move the market are the ones who buy a lot of games, making huge backlogs that will never be touched, pay for subscriptions, etc, and those people don't care about physical media

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Oh they are so close yet so far away

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Like jumping from a trash bin to another trash bin.

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