Fox News and the entire GOP is so terrified of Mayor Zohran Mamdani's success that they are mocking him for asking New Yorkers to be careful with their thermostats during an extreme heat wave. This is the same advice Trump's Energy Department has suggested as well.

Not only do they look foolish, but they appear desperate in their efforts to smear and ridicule a popular political rival.

This morning on Fox and Friends, the three co-hosts were beside themselves that the mayor of New York City would ask residents to turn the thermostat higher to conserve energy so that there aren't any blackouts during this massive heat wave.

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[–] 115 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Is everything sensible or socially conscious Communism now? Taking public transit, being more physically active, telling my family that I love them... all communism?

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Is everything sensible or socially conscious Communism now?

    No, this is way off base.

    Everything sensible or socially conscious has been Communism since the 1930s. Shoutout to Behind the Bastards, who coincidentally aired a couple of episodes about this very subject this week (Elizabeth Dilling episodes).

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Not quit. It's more like: "Anything someone they don't like says" is "something they think sounds bad". Mamdani said to conserve power, that's communism. AOC said she likes pineapple on pizza, she's basically Voldemort.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, pineapple on pizza is a war crime, I can’t disagree

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Correct. Anything MAGA doesn't like is Communism.

    • Enforcing Tax codes -> Communism
    • Lower Fossil Fuel usage -> Communism
    • Being told no on being asked out on a date -> Communism
    • Investigating anything for corruption -> Communism
    • Having to ask for mustard on your sandwich -> Communism

    Basically anything.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Its a thing they apply to specific people. You either do things communistly or freedomly even if its the same exact action.

    For instance, when the DSA is saying the public should have ownership over Intel they're being real communists about it.

    When Donald Trump does it, he's doing it freedom style, which makes it okay.

    Edit - It occurs to me the analogy here is that these are sorcery rules the 'communist magics' are evil and musn't be cast while the 'freedom magics' are good. Imo it might be funny to create a "Christian Socialists of America" so you can cast out of the DSA spellbook using 'freedom magics'

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Is everything sensible or socially conscious Communism now?

    This is the same program that referred to Fred Rogers as "an evil, evil man". I don't think they're the best judge of people or motives.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    problem being communism is a made up fantasy world so yeah anything can fit, up to the preferences of the larper

    so why not seize the means of production and mandated thermostat temperature (which was common in commie buildings)

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  • [–] 49 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Jimmy Carter asked the nation to turn down thermostats ~50 years ago, and these people are still freaking out about it.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Carter was promptly voted out of office and replaced with Ronald Reagan. We all know how that went.

    It might have had something to do with Carter putting solar panels on the White House roof as well. Or the backroom deal that Reagan's people made with the Khomeini regime to keep the American hostages in captivity until after the election. Who knows.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago*

    backroom deal that Reagan's people made with the Khomeini regime to keep the American hostages in captivity until after the election

    I still hold that that was treason and should have been tried as such, but we only ever try people that attempt to make America better for treason

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I think Carter was simply out-charisma'd by Reagan. The televised debates had a clear winner (on presentation, not policy).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Well, common sense and calling for sustainable consumption are just not very sexy. Voters preferred the charismatic actor from Hollywood to the pragmatic farmer from Iowa, and that got all of us into this current mess.

    Maybe the United States needs more politicians like Mamdani who combine no-nonsense progressive realpolitik with populist messaging.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    There's a quote about Carter from early SImpsons: "He's history's worst monster!"

    On the commentary track, one writer said, "It's a joke about how overblown the hatred of Carter is," and another writer said, "No, I meant it sincerely."

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago

    Fox and their audience would happily unplug someone's life support to charge their cell phones. God forbid they turn up their thermostats a degree or two to prevent widespread blackouts.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    If they hate Mamdani so much why don’t they leave New York instead of whining about it ?

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Better to live in blue states and blue cities and complain than to live in a red state, I reckon lol

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    How they make their money is by constantly bitching at what a Democrat does and gladly misinterpret good policy or announcements to their own greedy benefit.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    All while living in that Democrat-controlled area because it's much nicer than the Republican hellhole they keep clamoring for

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    But haven't you heard? All cities are crime-ridden hellscapes full of immigrants who will steal your job while also being lazy and collecting welfare, and who are brutish rapists/murderers but also sickly plague carriers, and who... don't always speak English. 😱

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Ah yes, asking your community as Mayor to be conscious of thermostat temperatures during a heatwave, to avoid brownouts or blackouts...

    Communism. Not common sense.

    Off topic, but as somebody who remembers when eastern seaboard grid died during the summer. I wouldn't want it to go down in this fucking heat.

    And these "hosts" seem old enough that they should remember.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Yeah, but this way they can complain about him asking folks to adjust their thermostats, and if people don’t, and there happens to be a blackout, then they can ALSO blame him as if he’s somehow running the Eastern power grids.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago

    The best part is, now that Mandami is being criticized by the Fox outrage machine, all of the government websites that had similar recommendations are being changed.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Automatic temperature controls engineer here:

    This is exactly what you want to do in a heat wave. It’s called load shedding.

    78°F in 100°F weather is going to feel perfectly cool. You’ll prevent your equipment from breaking down faster and see a notable difference in your electric bill.

    Fox morons - this is definitely a Gandalf-I’m-trying-to-help-you moment.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    What business is it of yours what I do with my own thermostat?!

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    78°F in 100°F weather is going to feel perfectly cool.

    Only if I've been outside. For those staying inside it's going to feel pretty unpleasant.

    It's still the best option though.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Have you tried setting your cooling to 78, or 76 with Eco mode on?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm at 75, and it's really the limit of what I can stand. Occasionally I have to lower it to 73 for an hour or so to pull some of the humidity out of the air.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Fox news logic is:

    IF person who said is Mamdani THEN its communism

    We can then extract from that communism isn't a set of actions and values to Fox News, its an adjective we apply to specific people to make them scary.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    But we also need to understand what they think is so scary about it: the government might give benefits to people that they hate.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    As much as I agree that is the driving concern behind fox news as an institution imo its more them trying to piggyback off decades of anticommunist propaganda and direct it at people who threaten their many cash cows and corrupt bullshit because even modest reforms to incrrease market competition at this point threaten their extreme levels of corruption.

    The level of thought you put into your reply is far more than they expect from most their viewers and probably most the hosts.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    American conservatives talking about “freedom” have very much come to resemble spoiled children wailing about any resistance to even their flightiest whims. A government advisory does not impinge upon your freedom, jackasses.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Come to? What the fuck was the second civil war about?

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    in other words. they can't find any legitimate issues with the mayor of new york and how he's governing and presenting himself to his constituents and the public, so they came up with this line of bullshit about thermostat settings.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago*

    In America, asking someone to do anything for anyone other than themselves…

    is COMMUNISM

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Kinda like telling a woman what they can and can't do with their body, right?

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    I wonder if it'll still be communism when the data centers advise it

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Just use celcius like the rest of us and it doesn't seem that high!!!

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Why are they suddenly back to using "Communism" as a catch-all pejorative, while at the same time apparently sending their kids to learn Mandarin?

    Fuck these assholes.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's a legacy we inherited from the cold war. Half the time, Fox News is speaking to Boomers and older gen-X, all of whom grew up and/or lived under the shadow of thermonuclear war and the looming threat of "Communism" (USSR). Nevermind that's all passe, the propaganda still echoes in their ears and can be recalled in an instant by uttering that one trigger word.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    People on Twitter pulled up old tweets of Nikki Haley and Greg Abbott asking for the same things. It's a day that ends in "y", which is how you know Republicans are arguing in bad faith.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Damn commies! I'ma go check a real state to see what they say. So DeSantis appointed every member of the FL commission, and they say it should be set to .. 78. More commies! What about TX? ERCOT is the worst run energy commission in history. Surely they have it right .. 78! IT'S EVEN IN THE STOCK IMAGES!

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    This is literally what got Reagan elected. The same tactic will still work on many people.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    This is why an actual democratic socialist wins in new york.

    To them, Gavin Newsome, Joe biden, and Kamala Harris get called socialists like it's a prize in a cereal box. At one point the young just ignore them.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    My A/C can't even get my rental to go below 80°F in this heat wave anyway 😆. I'll be relocating to the basement with frozen açai until further notice.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    COMMUNISM is Suggesting THERMOSTAT LEVELS!

    -People telling Schools NOT to use Water or Electricity because FREEDOM!

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Fox news viewers need to feel like victims every single day.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Has anyone told them who is in charge?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Fine, ignore it and pay more for your energy usage as you are free to do.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Its just another way of Fox saying that they consider their base to be nothing more than People of the Earth.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Social programs my dude, social programs.

    A socialist program would be a program that advocates for workers controlling the means of production.

    There is no socialism in the US, but boy do they have a long list of social programs.

    Just like calling Democratic socialists socialists; they aren't socialists they are reformists.

    The only way you will ever see socialism is thru revolution.

    Have a great day!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Capitalism is when people die of preventable causes, such as dying from heat exposure or complications from it, because allowing them the resources to cool their houses (that they likely don't own and are privileged to have at all) is communism.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Good thing Trump sat on a black towel when he appeared on this couch or she'd have a brown racing stripe on her dress.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of reasonable room temperature. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Putin, Merz and Macron, French Radicals and German police-spies.

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