"But we got all dem Gravy Seals! Ain't they good for somtin'?"

Yes, and you give yourself da Beetus buying soda with the food stamps paid for by New Yorkers.

The sad part is how hard the South committed to losing. Not lost take the L and walk it off. Generational losing. Epic, century-long losing every single fucking day of every life of every redneck, cracker-ass dipshit. Systematic losing, so deeply ingrained that even when they get ahead a little bit, one fucking Yankee asswipe cons half of them out of their every last dime. And they're glad to give it up.

Roman empire levels of tragic, really.

But they can always pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right?

They'd have to bring back slavery to even possibly make it viable

They'd also probably turn into a raiding culture

The imaginary world MAGA lives in where everything makes sense and runs on vibes

I honestly think you take the bordering states of 1 and 3, and give them to 2. And the rest form a united 1.

Basically, putting 2 between a hammer and an anvil

Well, they're saying 1 and 3 would fight 2, but that's the end of my understanding here.

we're fighting over who has to take utah

If conservative voters were able to comprehend the world without the lens of the stereotypes they learned in high school, they wouldn't be conservatives.

Because they’re stuck thinking 150 years in the past.

A lot of them won't survive this summer.

I was going to say as much. WV flipped hard in 2000. But it's simple to understand - WV has always been pretty socially conservative, but was Dem because of the unions. They flipped because the Dems decided to turn on the biggest union industries in the state. The coal miner's union isn't a good base for your power when you're overtly talking about actively working to destroy the coal mining industry. To be clear about how much WV cares about coal, it's the state rock and there's a coal miner on the state seal. The libertarian bent of a lot of GOP doesn't hurt either, Montani Semper Liberi and all.

Last time I drove through WV, there were confederate flags on a lot of porches.

At least for the first 3 years.

That's not even the Confederate flag, is a specific battle flag of some shit battalion that obviously lost.

They can fly a dirty white dishcloth any time they want

It was the 1915, Hollywood movie 'Birth of Nation' that re-invented and restarted the whole southern states thing. One, of only a handful, of movies that year, almost the entire population of the U.S.A. watched it. This was when full length movies a medium was still new and influential.

keep the flag live

This is the more important fact here that we absolutely and royally fucked up on

Fucking traitor scum

This.

They also think they'd be the 'majority' in this fight. And sure, they'd have a lot of land. But people... Money? No.

When Biden won, something like over 80% of the GDP broke for the Democrats.

Good luck funding a war with 20% of the money they country makes. There's counties in California that make that much probably.

Problem: interior statesia has shipping via the great lakes/Ohio River and the Mississippi River. And that big ol coastline in the gulf of motherfucking Mexico. It's easier to blockade them, but they're not landlocked

I doubt Texas would go along with the rest of the South for long anyway. Ignoring the left lean of the big cities, Texans have a particular attachment to the idea of independence and given the opportunity would likely throw their weight around. (They are, after all, the land that seceded from two countries in order to keep their slaves)

If the country fractures I think it would be into ~7 pieces.

Think of the exodus from the US to Canada. Most people in the USA, 99%, just want their ordinary life.

Based on behaviour to date do you seriously think the MAGAts will allow a peaceful split ?

The group who rolled the military into blue states on a bullshit pretext are going to let their cash cow go free ?

I don't think so Tim.

The yokels simply don't realize that all those fancy military toys they like to harp on about are designed and made in Redondo Beach at Northrop Grummen.

Skunkworks, NG, and a ton of the actual MIC is based in California.

1 is upwind, which matters a lot for Ukraine

Hey! I live in Portland and I haven't stolen anyone's Legos.

Save for Jase, but he deserved it for being a whiny little bitch. He can go have his hot lunch in the Teacher's Lounge... fucking brown-noser.

Also, I'm 38.

Yeah I got some issues. Kentucky never seceded. It was settled by southerners who fought for the union and couldn't go home. They would be in grey, as would most of Tennessee. And Houston (bird god bless Sam Houston, shit on his enemies) would be a wonderful and welcome foothold for any anticonfederate bullshit. Utah, they'd be in red even if they were surrounded.

Shut your damn mouth. That's a psyop out of Edwards Air Force base...in California....

Nor do I, but history rarely cares what the Common Man™️ wants. Get connected with your local community, and get involved in local politics. It's more important now than ever before.

I think the people who call for civil war have no idea the abject horror of what they're actually asking for

If popular sovereignty (the right to vote) is denied or suppressed, there could be one.

Millions are banking on the midterms and 2028 to get out of this mess we're in... If that's taken away and it appears that the current administration will continue to rule in violation of the constitution, then the social contract is over with