PlayStation discs will soon be gone!Wtf #sony ?The #playstation account announced in a blog post that they will stop making game discs altogether. play.st/4v86Wg3This means :- No buying second hand. Once the game is not sold anymore nobody can buy it- Can not bring the game to someone's house and play together, now you need to log into your account- Sony can, for any or no reason remove a game from your library- If you paid extra for a PS5 with a disc drive, too bad, you can't use the drive you paid extra for with games beyond 2028!- Overall, a very slippery slope for ownership.@StopKillingGames 's post on the issue : mastodon.social/deck/@StopKill@games#gaming #stopkillinggames #games #preservation #digitalownership

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[–] 10 points 4 months ago*

In other news Linux on ps5 works on the phat and slim up to 7.61

https://github.com/ps5-linux/ps5-linux-loader

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  • [–] [B] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    @helloyanis @games YIKES, they must've been practically waiting for the GTA 6 announcement.Welp, I guess we're never buying any playstation anything in the future. We've /already/ lost access to any digital games for our PS4 we don't already have downloaded, because we'd have to update the console to redownload them and that would make it unhackable. And like... the physical games is the literal ONLY REASON to go console for us. If there's no advantage to going console and we don't own our games anyway, and might get locked out of them at any time with a system update, why not just buy everything on Steam?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    @IceWolf @games It's funny you say that because I have a PS2 and all the games still work on it. I was actually playing a PS2 game when I wrote this post!Ah the good times... :blobcatpensive:

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  • [–] [B] 3 points 4 months ago

    @helloyanis @games PS3 too! Our PS3 is pretty great.Funnily enough, it can spoof its version so IT has no problem going online! We can even buy legit digital games on a hacked console.(hey Sony, consider: if you lock hacked-console people out of buying games because you block them from PSN, they HAVE to pirate if they're not going physical)

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I hope their sales reflect their stupid decision as a warning to other companies. As an Xbox guy, I guess I'll be doing my part?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Microsoft is looking to boost Xbox profitability and Nintendo has allowed developers to sell blank cartridges, so I'm sure both of them will soon do the same while simultaneously increasing game prices.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    This is just one more reason that I'll add to my list as to why as soon as the Steam Machine is financially justifiable, I'll be making the change.

    I know it gets a lot of hate from people that build their own PC's but I feel like they are missing something about the Steam Machine that makes it great.... For console people, the Steam Machine is freedom from the bullshit games that Microsoft and Sony are playing. Do I still need to rely on digital downloads? Of course but they are mine actually downloaded to my HD just like a PC and I can get them from any source 🏴‍☠️!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    The discs have been a joke for a long time anyway. The first time I put a disc in and then was immediately prompted for a software update, it felt like I was cosplaying. Like what's even the point? Modern discs don't do anything anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Well, if you were connected to the internet, it likely had patches it wanted to download.

    If you're not connected to the internet, or refuse the patches (if possible), the disc should install and play. There are some games out there that don't include the whole game on disc (minus previously mentioned patches, of course) but they are the minority afaik.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    They are a physical token of ownership mainly, which is very important as Sony has demonstrated that will happily remove content you've bought because licensing ran out. That's a huge boundary to cross.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    What makes you think they can't take away your license to a physical copy? Concord anyone?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    They totally could but that's a hell of a line to cross. Not so much the online only stuff, but like literally everything? Why actually buy things at that point?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Its not just that they could. They already have. Guess you'd better stop buying.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    yes? that's pretty much what's going on.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I don't understand. You just suggested that they could but wouldn't...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I think I'm a bit confused and I was probably a bit tired last night. To recap I think they are probably going down the line where eventually you'll have games removed from your psn profile similar to how they removed the movies from licensing issues. I'm certainly not buying a new console while they are going down that road, no new games I don't have physical ownership of the media it's on.

    Steam has a history of not removing things that you've already bought which I think is crazy important for consumer confidence. PlayStation feels like it's shooting itself in the foot so hard with this, I have no idea why they think it's a good idea. I mean obviously short-sighted money bullshit, but you'd think they'd understand the importance of long term planning with their 6th console.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Games not being playable on a PS5 with a disc drive is a bit much. They have internal storage the same as all other PS5s. In addition, discs are essentially just physical licenses these days and have been since the late days of the PS4. Rarely is the game that’s on the actual disc playable. More often than not you need to install an update to make it playable, meaning even if you have the disc you are still relying on Sony to ensure the game can be played.

    I don’t think this is excusable or acceptable, but I do think people are blowing it out of proportion. PC gaming has been digital only for well over a decade. This is no different.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    In my opinion it is very different because if PS decides every game is now 120 euros you have no alternative. If Steam decides the same, you have all the other stores to compete. The open platform argument.

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