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[–] 48 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Doesn't this flip flop every few years anyway? This is the 4th time China has had the fastest according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_supercomputing

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Interesting, it will be based on the ARMv9 architecture and will be CPU only, no GPUs

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I think the top500 is harmful to the hpc community because it encourages people to build huge, mostly homogenous hpc facilities instead of a network of smaller, heterogenous hpc facilities

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  • [+] 7 points 4 months ago (13 children)
  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago

    USA is financializing everything, is in full wealth extraction mode for the happy few and is still going on only out of momentum. China is beating them by not doing anything stupid, although they do have their own issues.

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  • [+] 11 points 4 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Both countries have asshole governments. It just so happens to be that China hasn't regressed to be anti-science.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    Why was my comment removed?? Wtf is wrong with the Lemmy Mods?? Stupid fucking assholes!

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    America has plenty of morons and plenty of Nazis, but that's not the deciding factor. What China has and America doesn't here is a responsive ruling class with a positive vision for the future.

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    They probably mean they are beating the US in a quieter fashion than the US beats other countries.

    When the US beats other countries in any field, even temporarily, you can hear it loud and clear. It sounds like:

    Eagle screech

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    [–] 22 points 2 months ago

    Since this article is very light on details-

    It's using Huawei LX2 ARMv9 cores, 304 cores @1.5ghz 690W (with 1x? SVE2 unit and an SME unit, nice) with two seats per node, originally it was to have 20,480 nodes in 90 cabinets for 40,960 CPUs (12,451,840 cores...) but the TOP500 listing has more cores (13,789,440 - 4,400 more) than some of the original documentation, so they must have added a few cabinets.

    Pretty neat, brute-forcing it with CPUs makes for an infinitely more useful machine than GPU compute, despite the higher power cost. (42MW vs. 29MW for El Capitan)

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Exaflops/s : WTF are Exaflop accelerating?

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Exaflop is 1 quintillion flops (floating point math operations in a second.). Yes, probably can run DOOM.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    That's the joke. The table has Exaflops/s => Exaflop /s^2^ => acceleration. Ah, no it doesn't, it has Exaflop/s rather than the normal Exaflops. My bad. Funny how you see what you expect to, no?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'll help with a layman explanation in addition to what op already defined.

    Teraflops is a measure of raw compute power often used to measure GPUs(but isn't really accurate to use to compare 2 different kinds, but that's a whole nother conversation). Exaflops are a million times more than teraflops.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    I've heard it said that when you have the fastest supercomputer, you have the advantage of running computations and simulations that are only accessible by future hardware. The country that has the fastest supercomputer is therefore the most advanced. They have a machine that can reach into the future and do what everyone else cannot.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    Direct link to the current release of the Top500 list:

    https://top500.org/lists/top500/list/2026/06/

    Whew Alps is barely still in the top ten.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe Orange pedophile trump should cutaway more from science, inbred man followed by all inbreeding morons, is your family tree a stick if so you're a perfect candidate to be a maga gop

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    [–] 30 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    China is going to win over usa...

    ...I mean as the next world dominating superpower.

    And with the state of America... It's kind of feeling like "whatever".

    America flew too close to the sun.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    https://top500.org/news/lineshine-debuts-no-1-top500-enters-new-global-exascale-era/

    If this is true which it apparently is, it's incredible, because this should theoretically be next to impossible.
    AMD and Nvidia compute units should be pretty superior.

    A few years back China had the top 3 super computers of the world. But the fast development of AI processors by especially AMD and Nvidia that China was not allowed to have, made it more difficult for China.

    I suspect few people will realize how big of an achievement it is for China to take back the crown without the special chips from AMD and Nvidia.

    This article has a lot more info:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/china-bypasses-us-gpu-bans-with-1-54-exaflops-lineshine-supercomputer-cpu-only-monster-packs-2-4-million-huawei-designed-armv9-cores

    The system is based on ArmV9 custom designed by Huawei.
    Well anyways, USA shot themselves in the foot, when they prevented Chinese companies from having high end AMD and Nvidia AI technology. Because now China will just make their own.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    Indeed. Paradoxically, it was the US's decision to limit exports of CPUs and GPUs that gave China the push it needed to stop relying on American technology and focus on becoming independent.

    China in 2026 is not the same country as it was before. It is now a technological and R&D powerhouse.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Friendship with Amerikkka ended. Now China is my new best friend.

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  • [+] -11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    ...and as long as Americans are up in arms about data centers, we'll never take the lead ever again.

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