I'm mainly interested in how clean it gets the dishes, and how reliable it is. I also don't need or want any kind of internet-connected features.

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[–] 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

FWIW all Bosch dishwashers have IoT now, even the cheapest. You don’t need to use it, but at least it plays well with 3rd party stuff like Home Assistant.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Really, because I have a Bosch and I had to install the app and then use HACS to install an integration which goes through their cloud.

    I don’t use that for anything more than alerts but it’s annoying it has zero local control. This is a perfect use case for Zigbee or Z-Wave and if I’m paying a premium I don’t get why I wouldn’t get premium features.

    Also some features are app only (special dry modes etc) so if I want the functionality I paid for I have to be signed up for their cloud.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    let's hope they won't just hop on an open wifi and do whatever, but hoping is the most we can do.

    never had such a device, if it works with Hass (offline) that's kind of good, but I wonder if they are hackable before connecting them to a network, because they run a hotspot or something

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