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Alt Text“At the heart of Batman’s being, like all theater kids, is a boundless narcissism that eats away at his core.”

ExplanationMany versions of Batman have a strict “no killing” rule, which is exactly the kind of intuition the Trolley Problem is attacking. Why is it different to actively kill someone vs passively letting five people die? In particular, Batman’s version seems to be a sort of “honor code”, which something close to a moral system, but it is entirely inward looking. In other words, fulfilling the honor system doesn’t do good for the world, it elevates the status of the honorable man. In a sense it’s the worst possible way to answer a moral question, “I want to kill the five people because I personally would lose something (my honor)”. Also its pretty showy to dress up as a bat. One might even call him a weirdo.

Transcript8 Panel Comic

Panel 1: The Riddler stands at the lever explaining his setup of the classic Trolley Problem. Tied to one track are 5 people, and tied to the diverted track is 1 person. A trolley is prepared to mow down the 5 people unless the lever is pulled, diverting it to the path with one person.

Riddler: Alright Batman riddle me this. A trolley is moving down this track and is going to kill five people, but if you switch tracks it will only kill one, do you pull the lever?

Panel 2: Batman shakes his fist at the Riddler

Batman: Curse your implausible games, Riddler!

Panel 3: Batman hesitates in front of the lever, his hand shaking.

Batman: The right thing to do is save five people, but I have sworn to my code of ethics to never kill!

Panel 4: The Riddler exults in the devious dilemma delaying Batman’s decision.

Batman: I cannot do it! I cannot be the one to kill directly!

Riddler: Looks like the Batman has failed Philosophy 101! HAHAHAHAHA!

Panel 5: Batman watches as the trolley splatters 5 people across the track as the Riddler continues in his exultations.

Panel 6: Batman now sits in his Batcave as his Alfred arrives with his dinner on a covered tray.

Alfred: But what I don’t understand Sir, is how upholding your moral code can have more value than their lives?

Panel 7: Batman smoking a cigarette puts on his best grizzled and hard boiled face.

Batman: Because I’m a narcissist, Alfred. I value my own ego above everything, and I didn’t want to lose the “no killing” thing, because I like bragging about it. That’s all.

Panel 8: Alfred is shocked at Batman’s response.

Alfred: Really, I never thought so…

Batman: I dress up as a bat to fight crime. Of course I’m a narcissist. Your kind of a moron, Alfred, honestly.

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[–] 4 points 1 day ago

How many situations have there been in actual Batman media^[Excluding the ones that ignore the no killing rule, obviously] where Batman refuses to kill someone knowing that doing so will directly cause the imminent deaths of innocent people? Not some theoretical future harm based on an assumption that a criminal will escape and kill again, a situation where subduing a criminal is not enough to prevent them from killing someone and the only way to save a life is by killing the bad guy first.^[The closest I can recall is a cartoon where he and several other heroes had the opportunity to kill Granny Goodness, and then later he had the opportunity to blow up Apokolips and take out Darkseid and all of his minions. The former is a somewhat questionable decision because she can't be arrested and imprisoned, it was a choice between killing her and letting go and the harm she would inflict afterwards is predictable if not immediate. The latter is a more impactful decision, but it's a lot harder to argue that getting everyone out alive and ending the immediate conflict is obviously morally inferior to killing an entire planet full of people (including yourself, your team and the people you came to rescue) just to take out its leaders.]

The argument always seems to be that Batman should kill the Joker instead of capturing him because the Joker will escape again and thus will kill again. Of course, in-universe the Joker's escape is not inevitable. We only know he will always escape because he is a popular villain that the writers will keep bringing back. Batman can't know that. And even with that knowledge the argument falls apart because killing Joker won't stop him anymore than arresting him would.

But beyond that, why is it Batman's job to play judge, jury and executioner? And exactly how do we decide when someone is so evil and dangerous that they should be killed even if they could instead be captured and imprisoned? The whole argument starts looking a lot shakier when we take away the costumes and start applying the same logic to normal people in the real world. I suspect most of us would be uncomfortable with a cop just shooting someone instead of arresting them because they figured they'd end up back on the street at some point, or a paramedic letting an unconscious murder suspect bleed out because they might kill again.

Also, we already have Batman but he kills people. He's called the Punisher. Somehow, despite decades of waging a much more literal war on crime, all those innocent people don't seem to be any safer. Funny how that works.^[Yes, I know, this is applying meta logic again, but that's half the point. No course of action the hero takes will ever succeed if doing so would completely undermine the core concept of an ongoing series. And without being able to rely on some out-of-universe justification to claim that the consequences will be better, it's pretty fucking hard to argue that the Punisher's methods are morally superior from an in-universe perspective.]

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