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Well this explains why I like both. (lemmy.world)
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[–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Mind melds, Q magic, and the Prophets from DS9 are all overt magic. Like why can only Vulcans do mind melds? If it were science you'd be able to create a technology that would be able to do it. But nah in Star Trek, they don't even try to develop technology to do mind melds because it's something everyone knows only Vulcans can do... because it's magic.

When Q was temporarily human, he mentioned being able to change physics constants. Geordi wasn't like "holy shit that totally changes how we think about science" he's just like "we can't do that because we aren't Q."

The powers that aliens have in Star Trek is treated as being magic by the people in the universe. Some aliens just have magical abilities and nobody questions it.

Meanwhile in Star Wars, all of the powers the Jedi have are explained by microscopic organisms that can be measured with a device. Sure nobody likes that, because we actually do want Star Wars to be fantasy and not science fiction. But (for better or worse) Star Wars is more science fiction and Star Trek is more space fantasy.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Vulcans are telepathic and there are technologies in the Star Trek cannon that can allow mind reading or inhibit telepathic ability.

    The Q and the Prophets are higher dimensional beings.

    These powers are never treated as magic just not currently achievable. In fact there are whole episodes of each series (TNG’s Who Watches the Watchers is one) that deal with the idea that not understanding technology doesn’t make it magic. Most of the crew of Deep Space 9 refer to the Prophets as ‘Wormhole Aliens’ specifically because they don’t believe their powers are magic or godly.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    they arnt using magic lol, Q and prophets are multidimensional beings that can alter reality/change dimensions. its equivalent to a higher tier civilization like type 6-7 ish. also explains some of them like the prophets, organians, douwd are beings that were original organic but evolved to beings of pure energy and thought. star wars on the other hand uses actual magic, look at night sisters.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    There are human telepaths in Star Trek, too, Miranda Jones comes to mind.

    There’s also Landru, who built a telepathic computer that controlled the entire population.

    Pretty sure the universal translator and combadges all work off telepathy, but that could just be my head cannon.

    I do agree it’s all basically space-magic; though.

    Also, the engineering in Star Trek is largely more likely than in Star Trek. (For example, warp drive violates causality,)

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