I genuinely believe this is a false dichotomy. The descriptors you assign to each category may apply to some politicians, but many more hold complex views that don't fit into these boxes. The "fiscally conservative neoliberal establishment corporate dems" you're discussing are the corrupt people I'm talking about. These are the people taking bribes and not representing their constituencies, which is a totally standalone issue. This conversation must be about political reform and anti-corruption rather than some left-center conflict theater
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