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[–] 9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Wait, are we really putting psychoanalysis on the same bucket as homeopathy now?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

    Pretty much. It's built on unverifiable claims, even Freud's own case studies ended wrecks, and it!s used today to support shit "diagnoses" like "this kid is autistic because his mother loved him too much". And there's all the bullshit coming from the forced proximity with the analyst, like false memories. It is, in many ways, a pseudoscience.

    As for what can be determined through actual science, there were huge cross-studies that could not find any benefit to psychoanalytic therapy for treatment of most psychological problems.

    Psychoanalysis is not an equivalent term to psychology. It's only a branch of it, one that shits on experimentation and proof because all the proof you need are in the ravings of an old weirdo from a century ago.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    They cover Freud in psychiatry like you cover Satie in music, Picasso in art and Brecht in writing classes. That doesn't mean that the latest TV shows like Heated Rivalry are cubist versions of Mother Courage set to Gymnopedes. And how much Freud have you actually read and studied at a postgraduate level? Why do you mentioned Freud and not Lacan?

    Politely, I think your opinion is under-informed.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    They also teach obsolete models of the atom in science so students understand where we're coming from, but they don't still use them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    Not in postgraduate. Which the last comment made pretty clear that, at high levels, Freud is not seen as a complete fraud (mostly).

    I have mixed feelings about Lacan, although that's not my real academic position.

    None in postgraduate is looking at old models [of anything] as absolute truths.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I think i see the two senses of where the miscommunication occurred.

    You can put psychoanalysis in the same bucket at homeopathy in that it doesn't work when studied by clinical trials, and mainstream practitioners don't use it.

    On the other hand, Freud was not trying to be fraudulent, and did contribute tremendously to the field of psychology, unlike homeopathy's fraudulent relationship to medicine.

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