Timmons says he placed a tracker on the police chief’s truck and a surveillance camera on a car wash pointing at city hall where the chief’s office is because the mayor’s signature goes on the chief’s time sheets and he had concerns about them.

“The mayor’s position is not just shaking hands and kissing babies,” Timmons said.

But the mayor says he did not expect officers’ signatures on a bunch of resignation letters and did not expect the entire full-time Milner police department to resign effective Wednesday, Oct. 28.

The mayor wants to and says he’ll be able to keep a police department. In the meantime, the sheriff will patrol.

Milner Police Chief Lamar Bunn says he’s done nothing wrong.

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[–] 72 points 2 days ago* (20 children)

One of the best things that New York City did while I was living there was to get rid of qualified immunity for police officers. Those who enforce the law should be the last people who should ever be considered to be ABOVE the law.

Simply resigning from one’s position should never absolve one from a crime nor be means from escape from investigation into/prosecution for one’s commission of/participation in a crime/crimes. And for police officers, specifically, when resigning from one police department, it should preclude the ability to ever join another.

Those who are entrusted to enforce the law should be held to a higher standard, not a lower one. This is one of the greatest civil failures of American society that must be corrected as soon as possible.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 days ago (14 children)

    Just want to clarify, they limited qualified immunity in specific situations, they haven’t gotten rid of it completely.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 days ago (13 children)

    They both did and did not. If you wanna know the specifics, I suggest you look up the law. I’m not a legal scholar, nor am I qualified to explain it here.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (12 children)

    Give us a tl;dr from your understanding. Sounds interesting.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 days ago* (11 children)

    Not to be a jerk, but

    If you wanna know the specifics, I suggest you look up the law. I’m not a legal scholar, nor am I qualified to explain it here.

    You are responsible for your own knowledge. Demanding that others teach you? Fuck you.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago

    So here's the thing. This is a place called "social media". In such a space humans exchange information. Crazy, right? If I wanted to live my online life inside a search engine, I would do so. But I like to talk to and learn from other people. You're not one of those people, but you get my drift.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (9 children)

    That was his nice way of trying to help correct your misconception

    You are wrong. Your understanding of qualified immunity in NYC is wrong. We can't help correct your misconceptions if we don't know more details about your incorrect beliefs

    When we look it up, all we see is qualified inmunity still exists and has not been ended in NYC. We cannot look up why you incorrectly believe it has been

    Someone was trying to correct you in the gentlest way possible, without making you embarrassed about being wrong and you tell them, "fuck you". Look in a mirror buddy

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  • [+] -6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

    That was his nice way of trying to help correct your misconception

    Nice attempt at gaslighting. But not a very good one.

    You are wrong

    Also know, you gaslighting sack of shit:

    https://council.nyc.gov/press/2021/03/25/2079/

    Since you’re obviously here to troll, I’m blocking you.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (7 children)

    What an absolutely psychotic response this is.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 days ago* (6 children)

    Using facts and evidence to prove that you’re wrong… “ psychotic”?

    “Psychotic” is the inability to admit that you’re wrong, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence. Like Trump. But, I’m sure, there is somebody else you can blame for your own mistakes… Lol.

    Maybe you should build a ballroom to feel better about yourself, lol

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago

    What facts exactly do you think you gave there? Cuz I read the link you provided. Nowhere in there does it say that qualified immunity has completely ended in New York City.

    But yeah, you do seem unhinged.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago* (4 children)

    Actually I'm kind of confused by your response too. First of all you didn't provide evidence of anything because your link is about a plan to vote not one that already passed, so technically you gave zero evidence of anything. But I will assume they passed the vote, just to move forward the conversation. More pertinent maybe the actual article seems to support what the other people in this thread are saying and not what you're saying. So I'm confused why you think what you posted was such Rock Solid evidence:

    To increase accountability, the Council will vote on a bill that will effectively end qualified immunity as a defense for certain civil rights violations.

    So the people saying they only ended it in certain cases seem correct based upon your own evidence. What am I missing here?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 days ago* (3 children)

    First of all you didn't provide evidence

    When you start with such a blatant and obvious lie, everything else you say can be thrown in the trash

    Did you forget that every comment made beforehand is visible to everyone? Including my comment that contains the evidence you deny exists?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (2 children)

    Wow you didn't address anything I said in my comment. I even quoted your so-called evidence and why it was faulty, but you completely ignored it then called me a liar.

    You know what, no, I agree with the other guy now. You're coming off as psychotic.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Sifting through your bullshit lies isn’t worth my time. Why would I bother? to jerk off your ego? That’s not my job.

    And giving validity to your false claims, doesn’t serve me either.

    Go lie to and gaslight someone as stupid as you, which I clearly am not.

    I’ve proven you wrong before you even dared to speak. And if you haven’t realized what a stupid mistake you made by even commenting here in the first place, let me make it clear now: the facts proved you wrong before you even spoke, and I will continue to point out what a ridiculous and stupidly wrong ass you are until you simply stop proving that yourself.

    You are a victim of nothing other than your own dogmatic ignorance. I suggest you step away from social media and work on some self improvement. And to aid you in that, I’m gonna block you now, so the only one you have to argue with is yourself. Hopefully, you’ll realize the absurd foolishness of your endeavors, but my hopes for that are not high.

    Best of luck. You’ll need it.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Mostly agreed, but there are a thousand legitimate reasons to resign and that act shouldn't remove them from their profession. Same with getting fired. Who hasn't had an asshole boss or been fired unjustly (or at least known someone who was)?

    We need to hold the police force who re-employs the asshole cops accountable. Sure, hire 'em! But if they step out of line just once, that force is getting sued into the ground.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    1000 reasons? A dangerous myth that has led us into our present situation. Are there special exceptions? Yes, but they are very few and far between. Their exceptions to every rule, obviously, but that requires intelligent discretion exercised one incident at a time. And they are very rare.

    In reality, all cops are power, abusing, fascist pieces of shit. That is the entire reason they became cops in the first place. If not, there would be no people to be cops. If they weren’t fascist psychopathic pieces of shit, there wouldn’t be people available to be cops, so, logically, the fact that there are police officers dictates the fact that they are all psychopathic monsters. If there is any evidence to the contrary, anyone is welcome to present it, but until anyone does, the logical conclusion is that anyone and everyone who is a police officer is and was recruited specifically because they are a psychopathic monster.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I agree with all that about cops, but you think a resignation is proof of malfeasance? Fuck me, I have more reasons than most to hate pigs, but I'm not blinded by that hate.

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  • [–] 2 points 21 hours ago

    Honestly, if you read through their comments in the rest of the thread there’s not much point in trying to convince them. They’ve made up their mind and pointing out facts just results in them claiming you are gaslighting them.

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