I saw a post earlier (not on the fediverse), about a trans woman who had a date with a cis man who was pretty clearly into her, fliriting and stuff, but then as soon as she told him she was trans the guy immediately acted different, said he wasn't into her and just wanted to be friends, etc. The poster was obviously upset by that and was trying to vent about it online in a women's community who claim to be trans inclusive, but so many of the replies were about how he wasn't transphobic, how he was such a good guy for giving her the bare minimum respect after learning she was trans, how its not transphobic to not be attracted to trans people, etc. That's also not even what the poster was saying, she just wanted support after a shitty date, something which the community is perfectly capable of doing when a cis woman is seeking it.

But also like the guy was attracted to her! He just immediately changed his mind upon learning she was trans, which is literally just transphobia, holy shit. And almost all the supportive people in the comments or anyone saying that were getting piled on.

I already know the majority of cis people don't see us as actually being our gender/sex, but it still fucking sucks everytime I see something like that that reminds me of that fact so starkly.

Edit: The number of cis people coming in to this thread and doing the exact same fucking thing I'm complaning about in this post is wild holy shit. Like congrats on not having any ability to read the room l guess lmao.

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[–] [S] 6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

Again, no one is saying anyone is obligated to date anyone. I've repeatedly said the opposite this whole time.

That being said, dating preferences or choosing not to date someone can be rooted in bigotry. Idk if you're arguing the opposite, but dating preferences aren't some thing that's magically immune from being bigoted. As an extreme example, a Nazi could refuse to date any non-aryan and that's obviously because of the fact they're a Nazi. A person could be into Latinas because they fetishize them, that's rooted in bigotry. And a person can refuse to date a trans person because of the fact they're trans and that can be bigoted.

All the examples you've been giving are things people don't face widespread discrimination for, which makes them not equivalent. And no one said anything about the date calling the girl ugly either?

But if a person doesn't date a trans person because they're trans they need a really good reason to justify it to make me not assume they have some level of internalized transphobia.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Okay. You have clearly made up your mind that this is factually and unarguably transphobic so I’m going to step out of the discussion. It seems, nuance has no place here.

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