▲ 493 ▼ Average open source project nowadays (lemmy.zip) submitted 1 day ago by ducktumn@lemmy.zip to c/opensource@lemmy.ml 175 comments fedilink hide all child comments Can't escape AI slop projects from meat proxies man. Every single open source project smells like Claude Code recently. Sad times.
[–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] -3 points 18 hours ago (10 children) You know that's not the same permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago (9 children) How is it not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] -6 points 17 hours ago (8 children) English is the universal language. Rust isn't. Using rust is a choice and not mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (7 children) English is the universal language. No, it isn't. But ignoring the chauvinism there, okay, replace English with any other language that LLMs can speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 12 minutes ago I'm not even English? It's my second language. You can't deny that most people speak english including international politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago (5 children) I agree that calling it "universal" is both an exaggeration and chauvinistic, but English is the most widely spoken language in the world, both in total combined as first plus second language and it's by far the most spoken as a second language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers Rust is not in the same position among computer languages. Javascript holds that distinction, with Rust being way down, outside the top 10: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology (it's still outside the top 10 in the 2026 survey, but the 2025 chart is much easier to read and interpret at a glance). So Rust is indeed not the same as English, which makes it not an apt comparison. One can much more easily completely ignore and avoid Rust as a programming language than they can ignore and avoid English as a human language. They can surely both be ignored and avoided, but it's much more difficult to do so with English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust's association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Anyway, like I said in my comment, you can replace "English" with any other language that LLMs speak fluently. I gave English as the example language because that is the language this forum is in. There are much less widely spoken languages that LLMs are also fluent in. Should users of those languages abandon their languages? I was responding to that person's ridiculous reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 hours ago (1 child) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust’s association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Sure, but this is way too much arguing for a minor and harmless statement. You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output. They weren't advocating for others to do the same. They simply stated a personal choice. I choose to let people make the choices that they want to make and state their reasons for doing so, especially if their choice has no effect on me. Even the joke meme in their original post wasn't making an accusation towards rust but simply saying that rust use in combination with all the other indicators in the meme (i.e., "I made", "open source", and "in a month") point towards a project being vibe-coded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) But does it also mean we should all learn JS as it is the universal programming language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago Not at all, but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether someone stopping using Rust was the same as someone stopping using English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communism@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago (9 children) How is it not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] -6 points 17 hours ago (8 children) English is the universal language. Rust isn't. Using rust is a choice and not mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (7 children) English is the universal language. No, it isn't. But ignoring the chauvinism there, okay, replace English with any other language that LLMs can speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 12 minutes ago I'm not even English? It's my second language. You can't deny that most people speak english including international politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago (5 children) I agree that calling it "universal" is both an exaggeration and chauvinistic, but English is the most widely spoken language in the world, both in total combined as first plus second language and it's by far the most spoken as a second language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers Rust is not in the same position among computer languages. Javascript holds that distinction, with Rust being way down, outside the top 10: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology (it's still outside the top 10 in the 2026 survey, but the 2025 chart is much easier to read and interpret at a glance). So Rust is indeed not the same as English, which makes it not an apt comparison. One can much more easily completely ignore and avoid Rust as a programming language than they can ignore and avoid English as a human language. They can surely both be ignored and avoided, but it's much more difficult to do so with English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust's association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Anyway, like I said in my comment, you can replace "English" with any other language that LLMs speak fluently. I gave English as the example language because that is the language this forum is in. There are much less widely spoken languages that LLMs are also fluent in. Should users of those languages abandon their languages? I was responding to that person's ridiculous reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 hours ago (1 child) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust’s association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Sure, but this is way too much arguing for a minor and harmless statement. You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output. They weren't advocating for others to do the same. They simply stated a personal choice. I choose to let people make the choices that they want to make and state their reasons for doing so, especially if their choice has no effect on me. Even the joke meme in their original post wasn't making an accusation towards rust but simply saying that rust use in combination with all the other indicators in the meme (i.e., "I made", "open source", and "in a month") point towards a project being vibe-coded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) But does it also mean we should all learn JS as it is the universal programming language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago Not at all, but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether someone stopping using Rust was the same as someone stopping using English. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] -6 points 17 hours ago (8 children) English is the universal language. Rust isn't. Using rust is a choice and not mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (7 children) English is the universal language. No, it isn't. But ignoring the chauvinism there, okay, replace English with any other language that LLMs can speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 12 minutes ago I'm not even English? It's my second language. You can't deny that most people speak english including international politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago (5 children) I agree that calling it "universal" is both an exaggeration and chauvinistic, but English is the most widely spoken language in the world, both in total combined as first plus second language and it's by far the most spoken as a second language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers Rust is not in the same position among computer languages. Javascript holds that distinction, with Rust being way down, outside the top 10: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology (it's still outside the top 10 in the 2026 survey, but the 2025 chart is much easier to read and interpret at a glance). So Rust is indeed not the same as English, which makes it not an apt comparison. One can much more easily completely ignore and avoid Rust as a programming language than they can ignore and avoid English as a human language. They can surely both be ignored and avoided, but it's much more difficult to do so with English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust's association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Anyway, like I said in my comment, you can replace "English" with any other language that LLMs speak fluently. I gave English as the example language because that is the language this forum is in. There are much less widely spoken languages that LLMs are also fluent in. Should users of those languages abandon their languages? I was responding to that person's ridiculous reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 hours ago (1 child) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust’s association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Sure, but this is way too much arguing for a minor and harmless statement. You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output. They weren't advocating for others to do the same. They simply stated a personal choice. I choose to let people make the choices that they want to make and state their reasons for doing so, especially if their choice has no effect on me. Even the joke meme in their original post wasn't making an accusation towards rust but simply saying that rust use in combination with all the other indicators in the meme (i.e., "I made", "open source", and "in a month") point towards a project being vibe-coded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) But does it also mean we should all learn JS as it is the universal programming language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago Not at all, but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether someone stopping using Rust was the same as someone stopping using English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communism@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (7 children) English is the universal language. No, it isn't. But ignoring the chauvinism there, okay, replace English with any other language that LLMs can speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 12 minutes ago I'm not even English? It's my second language. You can't deny that most people speak english including international politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago (5 children) I agree that calling it "universal" is both an exaggeration and chauvinistic, but English is the most widely spoken language in the world, both in total combined as first plus second language and it's by far the most spoken as a second language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers Rust is not in the same position among computer languages. Javascript holds that distinction, with Rust being way down, outside the top 10: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology (it's still outside the top 10 in the 2026 survey, but the 2025 chart is much easier to read and interpret at a glance). So Rust is indeed not the same as English, which makes it not an apt comparison. One can much more easily completely ignore and avoid Rust as a programming language than they can ignore and avoid English as a human language. They can surely both be ignored and avoided, but it's much more difficult to do so with English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust's association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Anyway, like I said in my comment, you can replace "English" with any other language that LLMs speak fluently. I gave English as the example language because that is the language this forum is in. There are much less widely spoken languages that LLMs are also fluent in. Should users of those languages abandon their languages? I was responding to that person's ridiculous reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 hours ago (1 child) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust’s association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Sure, but this is way too much arguing for a minor and harmless statement. You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output. They weren't advocating for others to do the same. They simply stated a personal choice. I choose to let people make the choices that they want to make and state their reasons for doing so, especially if their choice has no effect on me. Even the joke meme in their original post wasn't making an accusation towards rust but simply saying that rust use in combination with all the other indicators in the meme (i.e., "I made", "open source", and "in a month") point towards a project being vibe-coded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) But does it also mean we should all learn JS as it is the universal programming language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago Not at all, but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether someone stopping using Rust was the same as someone stopping using English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 12 minutes ago I'm not even English? It's my second language. You can't deny that most people speak english including international politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago (5 children) I agree that calling it "universal" is both an exaggeration and chauvinistic, but English is the most widely spoken language in the world, both in total combined as first plus second language and it's by far the most spoken as a second language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers Rust is not in the same position among computer languages. Javascript holds that distinction, with Rust being way down, outside the top 10: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology (it's still outside the top 10 in the 2026 survey, but the 2025 chart is much easier to read and interpret at a glance). So Rust is indeed not the same as English, which makes it not an apt comparison. One can much more easily completely ignore and avoid Rust as a programming language than they can ignore and avoid English as a human language. They can surely both be ignored and avoided, but it's much more difficult to do so with English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust's association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Anyway, like I said in my comment, you can replace "English" with any other language that LLMs speak fluently. I gave English as the example language because that is the language this forum is in. There are much less widely spoken languages that LLMs are also fluent in. Should users of those languages abandon their languages? I was responding to that person's ridiculous reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 hours ago (1 child) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust’s association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Sure, but this is way too much arguing for a minor and harmless statement. You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output. They weren't advocating for others to do the same. They simply stated a personal choice. I choose to let people make the choices that they want to make and state their reasons for doing so, especially if their choice has no effect on me. Even the joke meme in their original post wasn't making an accusation towards rust but simply saying that rust use in combination with all the other indicators in the meme (i.e., "I made", "open source", and "in a month") point towards a project being vibe-coded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) But does it also mean we should all learn JS as it is the universal programming language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago Not at all, but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether someone stopping using Rust was the same as someone stopping using English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust's association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Anyway, like I said in my comment, you can replace "English" with any other language that LLMs speak fluently. I gave English as the example language because that is the language this forum is in. There are much less widely spoken languages that LLMs are also fluent in. Should users of those languages abandon their languages? I was responding to that person's ridiculous reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 hours ago (1 child) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust’s association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Sure, but this is way too much arguing for a minor and harmless statement. You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output. They weren't advocating for others to do the same. They simply stated a personal choice. I choose to let people make the choices that they want to make and state their reasons for doing so, especially if their choice has no effect on me. Even the joke meme in their original post wasn't making an accusation towards rust but simply saying that rust use in combination with all the other indicators in the meme (i.e., "I made", "open source", and "in a month") point towards a project being vibe-coded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 hours ago (1 child) How did English become the most widely spoken language? Most certain through far more bloodshed than anything to do with the production of AI systems. If Rust’s association with AI is a reason to avoid using Rust, then yes, the social conditions surrounding English usage are sufficient grounds for a movement away from English as the lingua franca. Sure, but this is way too much arguing for a minor and harmless statement. You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output. They weren't advocating for others to do the same. They simply stated a personal choice. I choose to let people make the choices that they want to make and state their reasons for doing so, especially if their choice has no effect on me. Even the joke meme in their original post wasn't making an accusation towards rust but simply saying that rust use in combination with all the other indicators in the meme (i.e., "I made", "open source", and "in a month") point towards a project being vibe-coded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago You seem to be making a huge deal out of one person on the internet saying that they stopped programming in Rust because they felt that rust projects were getting dominated by LLM output I didn't make a huge deal out of it; I made one short comment (sincerely) asking if they were serious, and replied because it turned into a longer comment chain. I don't think it's a big deal. I am surprised that they weren't joking and find their rationale ridiculous. And I separately take issue with the chauvinism expressed in another comment, but I don't think the original comment is a big deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) But does it also mean we should all learn JS as it is the universal programming language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago Not at all, but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether someone stopping using Rust was the same as someone stopping using English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago Not at all, but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether someone stopping using Rust was the same as someone stopping using English. permalink fedilink source parent