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Are artcraft apps considered slop or they have potential? (lemmy.ml)
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I just tried pdf craft on fdroid and really liked it, but its on beta and only 2 versions released.

Is it going to be well maintained and become an alternative or just stay unstable ai dlop? It had more stars on github than some other pdf viewers.

Whats your take on that. I am excited to see some decent apps on linux. Especially for .appimage and launching instantly unlike photoshop.

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[–] 6 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

I've checked its girhub before and photocraft has a lot of contributors, over 400. But the apps are made mostly by claude code. Personally id never use these apps but so far theyvebeen receiving updates quickly with humans adding new bugfixes (humans or maybe more vibe coders...).

I installed the flatpak out of curiosity and these artxraft apps receive updates fast in my opinion, a d they add more things like a reverse engineer app or solidcraft thing.

in my opinion, even with human bugfixes and that, its still slop, I trust other foss alternatives.

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  • [–] 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    This raises another question I've been kicking around in my head for a while - at what point does a slop project stop being slop? Say I one shot a slop app and then continue to iterate on it with human-written commits. Or I find a vibe coded app I think has potential, fork it and then iterate on it. At what point does this become non-slop, or does it ever?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 hours ago* (1 child)

    In my opinion is possible to stop being slop, if an app is very well made thanks to human checks (like fix garbage code made by llms). Llms can't be trusted to competely write code imo, but if a good programmer knows how to use llms to improve their workflow I think that's a good llm usage.

    artcraft apps are too new and still have a lot of bugs, but maybe someday it will be more useful in my opinion.

    If the code is checked by humans, like on the linux kernel for example, id say I trust it. And I dont think its slop.

    and llms have great uses for programming in my opinion, like the opensuses OpenQA, etc. ai has found cves on linux too which is a great usage for it. what I disloke its that some people think that by using tons of tokens they can be programmers by just prompting something...

    Artcraft, has a problem that they release quantity over quality, there are like 15 apps now and they aren't well tested... but who knows, maybe in the future it gets better. Maybe id change my mind of it being slop

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago

    I keep hearing people talk about trust, and it's really doesn't make sense to me because we've never done software development based on trust. Humans make mistakes all the time, and I've seen plenty far worse human code than anything an LLM has crapped out over my career. The way we ensure quality is through having a process. It's done by having good specifications, testing, code reviews, planning, and so on. All these things equally apply to code written by hand and that's generated by an LLM, and trust has nothing to do with it.

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