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[–] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He's not saying to forgive the people who hurt you so that they can evade accountability. You can forgive them, and they can still be held accountable and prevented from doing further harm. Those aren't mutually exclusive options.

When we forgive, in the way that ChunkMcHorkle is describing, we liberate ourselves from the pain of our past that we've been carrying around like chains for so long. That pain that we carry is a shackle to us, and it prevents us from fully living.

To hold onto that pain, to stay chained to it, is to give a victory to your abusers. Spite them by living fully, living freely, by being capable of experiencing joy and love again. Those are the things they took away from you. Take them back.

We can still hold wrongdoers accountable, but we don't have to wait to see them in jail before we can be happy. That is all they're saying.

And also, a little bit of how when you think you're attacking them, what you're really attacking is a ghost from your past, which you see hovering in front of them. It's a form of projection. What you're projecting is the pain you carry; and what you see instead of the person in front of you, is an image of the people who hurt you.

There are lots of assholes in Texas. No one here is denying that. But what Texas proved the other day, is that there are decent people there too. Hold the assholes accountable, but don't hate the decent people just for being from the same state. That's all

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    I think this might be a terminology issue then. The phrase I would use for what you're describing is "moving on", not "forgiving". Those are two very different things, and if your interpretation is true, that pretty much explains the entire disagreement here. Is using "forgive" in this way common where you are? It seems vaguely adjacent to the way it's used in some religious contexts.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    What you're describing as forgiveness sounds closer to reconciliation or even toleration.

    Here, you may find this illumining:

    https://philpapers.org/archive/EMEFAR.pdf

    Emerick, Barrett (2017). Forgiveness and Reconciliation. In Kathryn J. Norlock, The Moral Psychology of Forgiveness. Rowman & Littlefield International. pp. 117-134.

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