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[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bypassing congress for military funding was literally approved by congress as a power for the president.

Oh, well I guess that makes it OK then 🙄

But on literally every other issue, it’s comparing literal demons to normal policy.

Yeah, that's kind of the problem. Here in the US "normal policy" demonic. Bombing kids, kidnapping innocent people off the streets, sending people to torture camps, taking money from the workers and giving it to the rich, etc. Biden went with that, instead of helping the voters he pretended to care about when he was campaigning.

Biden actually requested less money for ICE than had been requested previously, and then later requested more for processing immigration cases.

And that's supposed to make me feel better? He could have said no money to ICE, we're disbanding them, and we're going to drop the immigration cases.

The funding is also irrelevant considering trump upped it by about 400% from 8b to 40b, and is running around terrorizing the population with it.

That doesn't sound irrelevant at all. In fact, that sounds very relevant. Especially considering that Biden was "running around terrorizing the population with it" too. Trump wouldn't have had that kick-start if Biden hadn't helped him.

The huge majority of Americans support border control, so Democrats did want to fund ICE, but they don’t want to fund a domestic terrorist group like the RepublicaBiden?

I'm assuming you meant "Republicans". You just said a directly contradictory statement: ICE is a domestic terrorist group, that helps the Republicans. So the Democrats clearly did want to fund it, considering that they did it when they didn't have to.

The protesters were arrested for breaking the law, not for protesting. Vote for people who will change the law if you don’t like it.

No, many of them were release because the cops couldn't prove any laws were broken. Biden also didn't arrest a bunch of other people who were breaking laws. Weird how he did that to the left, but gave the right a pass, isn't it?

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 child)

Oh, well I guess that makes it OK then 🙄

Not what I said.

Again Biden had... 5% lead in the house... -15% in the senate. He can't snap his fingers and pass laws, it's astonishing the bills he DID manage to pass.
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats.

The biggest being he is not in support of the absolute slaughter of the Ukraine Russia war, but I guess those 500k+ people don't matter enough that lesser of 2 evils is worth it (when one side is Hitler 2.0).

Ice was not being unbelievably evil when Biden was president, raiding American citizens homes, giving them contaminated water etc. Disbanding ICE was not even on the table. You may want open borders but that is extremely unpopular among Republicans and democrats. Biden continued the policy we have had for decades with ICE, and the increase was for trials, which we would want people to have fair trials.

Another example of democrats working to reduce ICE funding

I mean first of all Biden is not the one sending the police to these places, often it was the universities calling the police. Many of the cases didn't have sufficient evidence against the individuals or the police were too broad in who they arrested, but about 40% WERE convicted. That is a very high number for a large protest where it's hard to gather evidence before arresting people.

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[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago

Not what I said.

No, it's what you suggested.

He can’t snap his fingers and pass laws, it’s astonishing the bills he DID manage to pass.

Yeah, bills that help his rich friends, while openly not trying to pass bills that help the voters. I agree he was productive, but productive doesn't mean "good", just that he did a lot for his doners, instead of what he promised to do.

The biggest being he is not in support of the absolute slaughter of the Ukraine Russia war, but I guess those 500k+ people don’t matter enough that lesser of 2 evils is worth it (when one side is Hitler 2.0).

Ah, right, the Libs that very openly didn't care about the slaughter of Palestinians suddenly care when its white people in Ukraine. I wonder why that could be.... 🤔

I guess the Palestinians and Syrians don't matter when Libs have the option of voting for Hitler 1.9

Ice was not being unbelievably evil when Biden was president, raiding American citizens homes, giving them contaminated water etc

What? Yes they were. Just because you were out to brunch doens't mean that it wasn't happening. Look up the amount of rape that was happening, or the deportations to torture prisons, or the rotten food that was being given to the people that were being kidnapped.

Disbanding ICE was not even on the table.

Yes it was, but Biden didn't want to. He wanted ICE kidnapping people, just like he wanted to bomb kids, and back a genocide. That's why he did it.

Biden continued the policy we have had for decades with ICE, and the increase was for trials, which we would want people to have fair trials.

Ah, yes, our immigration courts, which famously, have unfair trials. He could have at least tried reforming those, or making sure that they were following the law, but he didn't, because he was too busy backing a genocide, and giving handouts to his rich friends.

Your example of the Dems trying to cut funding was when they knew it wouldn't pass. Just like, as soon as Trump got elected, a bunch of Dems came out calling for Medicare for all, or police reform. They do it when they know it won't pass, so that they can pretend that they tried. But when they have the power to do those things, like under Biden, they are suddenly too busy.

I mean first of all Biden is not the one sending the police to these places, often it was the universities calling the police.

And what did he have to say about it? What kind of support did he give the victims? Did he call up the universities and tell them to stop?

Remember, he was in full support of them calling the cops on anti-genocidists.

Many of the cases didn’t have sufficient evidence against the individuals or the police were too broad in who they arrested, but about 40% WERE convicted. That is a very high number for a large protest where it’s hard to gather evidence before arresting people.

No, that's a low rate. That means they wasted the time of 60% of people, on openly fraudulent arrests. Not to mention the fraud that went into the convictions that they did make.

I love seeing the knots that Libs have to twist themselves into, in order to make excuses why Dems "aren't akshually that evil", when they do things like support a genocide, bomb kids, elect a rapist, support ICE, and openly abandond their voting base.

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