▲ 760 ▼ Anthropic confirms new Claude Code limits to prevent game cloning — users report Opus 5.5 is also actively blocking reverse engineering tasks (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 1 week ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 174 comments fedilink hide all child comments My how fast the AI tech bros move to protect corporations but don't move to protect the average coder, artists, writers.
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (20 children) Government bales out AI companies and the bill they write to do it will make local LLMs illegal. 🎯 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] TiredDinoByte@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago (8 children) I think you are right, but that seems VERY unenforceable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago Successful enforcement doesn't look like catching every pivate LLM owner. permalink fedilink source parent [–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Except the people I hear running “local models” report a lot of hardware, like a half dozen graphics cards. The common person is screwed, they have a smartphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children) Two or three years ago sure. Now...not even close. Tons of models run on basically shit now. Especially with MOEs. I run new lightweight models on an i9 and 64gb of ddr4 ram with a 4gb quadro card...in a laptop from 19'. I think this is why a lot of these tech bros are saying silly shit about suggesting people need to rent from them. That's their entire shtick. Otherwise they got nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (4 children) Got some references and keywords for research? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/8F_5pdcD3HY This guy does a great brain dump on how little is needed to run LLMs on basically old junk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago Kudos permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) If you've got at least 8 gigs of VRAM and at least 32 gigs of RAM you can run some pretty beefy Qwen models using Strata, far more than you normally could. Upgrade that to 12 or 16 and 64 gigs respectively and you can run a pretty decent quant of Qwen 3.8 flash next. It's a LOT bigger than the usual 27 and 35 billion models people run locally that themselves require pretty beefy hardware. Strata is doing some magic by deciding which experts stay in VRAM vs which ones are in RAM vs which ones are so rarely used that they can just be read from the SSD as needed (though it's best if you don't have to result to the SSD as a backup option at all) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD... permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago (2 children) Piracy is illegal and they are of course doing a great job at stopping that... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago Reverse engineering isn't piracy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago Unless you're training your models... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago Local LLMs will never be illegal, because that genie is out of the bag permalink fedilink source parent [–] btsax@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago Bails permalink fedilink source parent [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (5 children) With what money? No one is buying bonds. The US would have to print so hard it'd cause hyperinflation, which still means the bubble pops permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago (4 children) The fed balance sheet gets bigger like it did with AIG. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 6 days ago (3 children) Again, how? No one is buying American bonds right now. You can't raise the debt if no one will loan you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children) The federal debt and the US treasuries part of the fed balance sheet is how much taxes should increase. They're different things, the fed can just buy bonds and put them on its balance sheet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) How much taxes should increase? Wait, is this just printing money with extra steps? Cause it sounds a lot like printing money with extra steps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago It is printing money with extra steps. The fed can sell off the bonds, and it has done it to reduce the balance sheet, but not fast enough. The last few crises though, it has been used as an option, and maybe it will happen to save the AI companies too. Taxes should increase for the billionaires and the super rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TiredDinoByte@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago (8 children) I think you are right, but that seems VERY unenforceable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago Successful enforcement doesn't look like catching every pivate LLM owner. permalink fedilink source parent [–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Except the people I hear running “local models” report a lot of hardware, like a half dozen graphics cards. The common person is screwed, they have a smartphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children) Two or three years ago sure. Now...not even close. Tons of models run on basically shit now. Especially with MOEs. I run new lightweight models on an i9 and 64gb of ddr4 ram with a 4gb quadro card...in a laptop from 19'. I think this is why a lot of these tech bros are saying silly shit about suggesting people need to rent from them. That's their entire shtick. Otherwise they got nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (4 children) Got some references and keywords for research? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/8F_5pdcD3HY This guy does a great brain dump on how little is needed to run LLMs on basically old junk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago Kudos permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) If you've got at least 8 gigs of VRAM and at least 32 gigs of RAM you can run some pretty beefy Qwen models using Strata, far more than you normally could. Upgrade that to 12 or 16 and 64 gigs respectively and you can run a pretty decent quant of Qwen 3.8 flash next. It's a LOT bigger than the usual 27 and 35 billion models people run locally that themselves require pretty beefy hardware. Strata is doing some magic by deciding which experts stay in VRAM vs which ones are in RAM vs which ones are so rarely used that they can just be read from the SSD as needed (though it's best if you don't have to result to the SSD as a backup option at all) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago Successful enforcement doesn't look like catching every pivate LLM owner. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Except the people I hear running “local models” report a lot of hardware, like a half dozen graphics cards. The common person is screwed, they have a smartphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children) Two or three years ago sure. Now...not even close. Tons of models run on basically shit now. Especially with MOEs. I run new lightweight models on an i9 and 64gb of ddr4 ram with a 4gb quadro card...in a laptop from 19'. I think this is why a lot of these tech bros are saying silly shit about suggesting people need to rent from them. That's their entire shtick. Otherwise they got nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (4 children) Got some references and keywords for research? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/8F_5pdcD3HY This guy does a great brain dump on how little is needed to run LLMs on basically old junk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago Kudos permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) If you've got at least 8 gigs of VRAM and at least 32 gigs of RAM you can run some pretty beefy Qwen models using Strata, far more than you normally could. Upgrade that to 12 or 16 and 64 gigs respectively and you can run a pretty decent quant of Qwen 3.8 flash next. It's a LOT bigger than the usual 27 and 35 billion models people run locally that themselves require pretty beefy hardware. Strata is doing some magic by deciding which experts stay in VRAM vs which ones are in RAM vs which ones are so rarely used that they can just be read from the SSD as needed (though it's best if you don't have to result to the SSD as a backup option at all) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children) Two or three years ago sure. Now...not even close. Tons of models run on basically shit now. Especially with MOEs. I run new lightweight models on an i9 and 64gb of ddr4 ram with a 4gb quadro card...in a laptop from 19'. I think this is why a lot of these tech bros are saying silly shit about suggesting people need to rent from them. That's their entire shtick. Otherwise they got nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (4 children) Got some references and keywords for research? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/8F_5pdcD3HY This guy does a great brain dump on how little is needed to run LLMs on basically old junk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago Kudos permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) If you've got at least 8 gigs of VRAM and at least 32 gigs of RAM you can run some pretty beefy Qwen models using Strata, far more than you normally could. Upgrade that to 12 or 16 and 64 gigs respectively and you can run a pretty decent quant of Qwen 3.8 flash next. It's a LOT bigger than the usual 27 and 35 billion models people run locally that themselves require pretty beefy hardware. Strata is doing some magic by deciding which experts stay in VRAM vs which ones are in RAM vs which ones are so rarely used that they can just be read from the SSD as needed (though it's best if you don't have to result to the SSD as a backup option at all) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (4 children) Got some references and keywords for research? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/8F_5pdcD3HY This guy does a great brain dump on how little is needed to run LLMs on basically old junk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago Kudos permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) If you've got at least 8 gigs of VRAM and at least 32 gigs of RAM you can run some pretty beefy Qwen models using Strata, far more than you normally could. Upgrade that to 12 or 16 and 64 gigs respectively and you can run a pretty decent quant of Qwen 3.8 flash next. It's a LOT bigger than the usual 27 and 35 billion models people run locally that themselves require pretty beefy hardware. Strata is doing some magic by deciding which experts stay in VRAM vs which ones are in RAM vs which ones are so rarely used that they can just be read from the SSD as needed (though it's best if you don't have to result to the SSD as a backup option at all) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/8F_5pdcD3HY This guy does a great brain dump on how little is needed to run LLMs on basically old junk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago Kudos permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) If you've got at least 8 gigs of VRAM and at least 32 gigs of RAM you can run some pretty beefy Qwen models using Strata, far more than you normally could. Upgrade that to 12 or 16 and 64 gigs respectively and you can run a pretty decent quant of Qwen 3.8 flash next. It's a LOT bigger than the usual 27 and 35 billion models people run locally that themselves require pretty beefy hardware. Strata is doing some magic by deciding which experts stay in VRAM vs which ones are in RAM vs which ones are so rarely used that they can just be read from the SSD as needed (though it's best if you don't have to result to the SSD as a backup option at all) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 days ago I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago (2 children) Piracy is illegal and they are of course doing a great job at stopping that... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago Reverse engineering isn't piracy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago Unless you're training your models... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago Reverse engineering isn't piracy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago Unless you're training your models... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago Local LLMs will never be illegal, because that genie is out of the bag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (5 children) With what money? No one is buying bonds. The US would have to print so hard it'd cause hyperinflation, which still means the bubble pops permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago (4 children) The fed balance sheet gets bigger like it did with AIG. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 6 days ago (3 children) Again, how? No one is buying American bonds right now. You can't raise the debt if no one will loan you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children) The federal debt and the US treasuries part of the fed balance sheet is how much taxes should increase. They're different things, the fed can just buy bonds and put them on its balance sheet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) How much taxes should increase? Wait, is this just printing money with extra steps? Cause it sounds a lot like printing money with extra steps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago It is printing money with extra steps. The fed can sell off the bonds, and it has done it to reduce the balance sheet, but not fast enough. The last few crises though, it has been used as an option, and maybe it will happen to save the AI companies too. Taxes should increase for the billionaires and the super rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago (4 children) The fed balance sheet gets bigger like it did with AIG. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 6 days ago (3 children) Again, how? No one is buying American bonds right now. You can't raise the debt if no one will loan you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children) The federal debt and the US treasuries part of the fed balance sheet is how much taxes should increase. They're different things, the fed can just buy bonds and put them on its balance sheet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) How much taxes should increase? Wait, is this just printing money with extra steps? Cause it sounds a lot like printing money with extra steps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago It is printing money with extra steps. The fed can sell off the bonds, and it has done it to reduce the balance sheet, but not fast enough. The last few crises though, it has been used as an option, and maybe it will happen to save the AI companies too. Taxes should increase for the billionaires and the super rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 6 days ago (3 children) Again, how? No one is buying American bonds right now. You can't raise the debt if no one will loan you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children) The federal debt and the US treasuries part of the fed balance sheet is how much taxes should increase. They're different things, the fed can just buy bonds and put them on its balance sheet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) How much taxes should increase? Wait, is this just printing money with extra steps? Cause it sounds a lot like printing money with extra steps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago It is printing money with extra steps. The fed can sell off the bonds, and it has done it to reduce the balance sheet, but not fast enough. The last few crises though, it has been used as an option, and maybe it will happen to save the AI companies too. Taxes should increase for the billionaires and the super rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children) The federal debt and the US treasuries part of the fed balance sheet is how much taxes should increase. They're different things, the fed can just buy bonds and put them on its balance sheet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) How much taxes should increase? Wait, is this just printing money with extra steps? Cause it sounds a lot like printing money with extra steps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago It is printing money with extra steps. The fed can sell off the bonds, and it has done it to reduce the balance sheet, but not fast enough. The last few crises though, it has been used as an option, and maybe it will happen to save the AI companies too. Taxes should increase for the billionaires and the super rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) How much taxes should increase? Wait, is this just printing money with extra steps? Cause it sounds a lot like printing money with extra steps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago It is printing money with extra steps. The fed can sell off the bonds, and it has done it to reduce the balance sheet, but not fast enough. The last few crises though, it has been used as an option, and maybe it will happen to save the AI companies too. Taxes should increase for the billionaires and the super rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] benny@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago It is printing money with extra steps. The fed can sell off the bonds, and it has done it to reduce the balance sheet, but not fast enough. The last few crises though, it has been used as an option, and maybe it will happen to save the AI companies too. Taxes should increase for the billionaires and the super rich. permalink fedilink source parent