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[–] 63 points 5 days ago (14 children)

The state party officials need to expel her from the party. Even if it would only have a symbolic effect they need to make clear that this is unacceptable for anyone who calls themselves a Democrat. If moderates ask progressives to "vote blue no matter who" and then turn around to endorse collaborators then they need to get the boot.

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  • [–] [S] 102 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    “Congresswoman Stevens is not a current member of the Michigan Democratic Party, nor will she be in the future,” Michigan Democratic Party Chair Curtis Hertel wrote on X Sunday.

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  • [–] 91 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    "Senate Democrats are united in our support for Abdul El-Sayed, because we know he will fight for the economic interests of working families in Michigan, unlike Mike Rogers, who is a tool of Donald Trump and billionaire donors," [Chuck Schumer] said.

    For once Schumer is 100% right.

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  • [–] 51 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    This coming from Schumer is honestly almost as shocking as Stevens choosing to completely burn her bridges with the Democratic Party.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Schumer says whatever toady thing he needs to to keep his job.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    My Chinese room theory of politics: I don't actually care whether anyone truly believes what they say. Words speak louder than thoughts and actions speak louder than words. As long as someone is useful as an implement to enacting progressive policy priorities, successful at shepherding legislation, and campaigns for the election of progressives, or can be strong-armed into doing the above three, I could not care less whether they actually believe in what they say.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 days ago*

    At the margin, sincere belief is still better. Which is to say, Schumer should still be replaced with an actual progressive/leftist/socialist at the earliest opportunity, regardless of how he tries to pivot to act like one. I'll appreciate the cynical pivot in the interim, but that's as far as it goes.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    If moderates ask progressives to “vote blue no matter who”

    Worth saying that applies to the general only. I'm a progressive and I say: Vote progressive as far as you can. Always vote for the most progressive (or least regressive) candidate. In the general election, that's gonna be blue over red. In the primary, that's any progressive candidate. "Blue no matter who" is just expressing the pragmatic general rule of thumb. I haven't seen any exceptions to that - I've never seen a Republican that wasn't more regressive than an establishment Democrat option.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (3 children)

    Fun fact: in the US, political parties can’t expel anyone from their party. Anyone can choose to join any party at any time.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    This is partially true. State Parties do own party affiliation on a ballot. Many states have codified party affiliations so you can only run as Hitler (D) if you have won the State Democratic Party Primary. But if you don't win the Primary, you can still appear on the Ballot, you just have to run as your own party, or (I) or whatever. You can certainly still call yourself a Democrat, or a Republican, or whatever, but how you will appear on the ballot won't be under the democrat ticket.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    But if you don’t win the Primary, you can still appear on the Ballot

    Yes, only one party member can proceed from the primary to the general. But that’s just the nature of the process. It doesn’t bestow the party any choice of candidates.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago

    For the primary the Party can choose to disqualify a candidate from being able to run in the primary, but obviously that has to be done before the primary, once that happens it's too late and there is no mechanism to remove a candidate once the general ballot has been certified.

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