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A Proton employee was given permission by his supervisors to break his silence and defend the official company line on Reddit (www.reddit.com)
submitted 1 week ago by to c/protonprivacy@lemmy.world
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The contempt Proton is showing for their users is astounding. They not only think people will fall for this transparent act of damage control, but they also have the gall to shift blame onto the users.

Go read the comments. Obvious bots are posting praise and many critical comments are being deleted by the moderators.

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[–] 125 points 1 week ago (15 children)

perception is more important than truth

That's all I need to read.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Proton have marketed themselves exceptionally well, comments suggesting they are not what they seem have always been met with a lot of downvotes. They marketed themselves into a brand receiving the same blind adoration as a sporting tam.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Sometimes it feels like the other way around too. So much hate and few reasonable discussions, like where to go?

    I'm on proton, and maybe I have been fooled but then where to go? Switzerland has one of the best privacy laws on the planet, the services are stellar (IMO), and yeah fuck the C-Suits, but google, mullvad, etc? No thank you.

    It's so infuriating.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I like having a single stack of integrated features, so that I don't have to shop around and figure who is the current best in slot far as service providers go. Yen is making it hard for me to stay with Proton, making it feel much less trustworthy.

    The redeeming feature is that Proton is in Switzerland, for the reasons you gave. I figure a European country with good privacy standards might be able to rein in this bullshit. Might.

    I will be watching this, and hope we get a Proton replacement - be it as a service, or the ditching of conservative leadership from Proton.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (4 children)

    Privacyguides.org has some generally solid info. For email it looks like your best bet is Tuta and for a VPN it's Mullvad.

    They mention Mailbox.org and ivpn too, but both of those have pretty clear deal breakers for me.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Charitably, it means the incorrect perceptions cause damage regardless of the truth. Do you dispute that position?

    See how much harder it is to dismiss a position when we don't shortchange it?

    I myself don't care what happens to Proton as a privately held company, and I don't buy their services. I just don't like cheap shots. The level of discourse at the fediverse doesn't need to devolve into another reddit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    You got it right. I saw the thread and the entire thing was a gigantic manipulation. But still, even in the context of that manipulation, it meant get out there and talk because others have perceptions that are out of alignment with our reality.

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