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What do you do if you can't find a movie on torrents? (infosec.pub)
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Live torrents for some old movies and pretty hard to find. I thought about somehow extracting .m3u8 but that didn't worked out. Those sits are getting better at hiding real stream URL. Any way to easy do it or something?

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[–] 24 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I've determined it's basically impossible to do that if you don't own a dedicated high-bandwidth seedbox

Completely untrue. I don't have a seedbox, never had one, and I keep perfectly fine ratios on two different private trackers. One has a ratio of 56 I think, the other (the one I use the most) has a ratio of 4.5, both just have a minimum requirement ratio of 0.5 i think before you're kicked.

I just have a computer on my home network, which is also the media server.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    What’s your upload bandwidth? Just asking because it is kinda relevant to the topic at hand.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Technically I pay for symmetrical 1Gbit, functionally I only have around 100Mbit upload bandwidth

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    On one hand, that’s great news for uploaders!

    On the other hand - oof! ISPs are bastards! You definitely deserve a bill credit! I was limited to about 100 Mbit when I moved in to my new apartment - turned out the fiber jack was bad. Have you been able to get a tech to check it out? Definitely a pain to get one out to check the physical line sometimes.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Up until recently, I was limited to 12Mbps through Comcast and had no issues building ratio for the 10 years using those speeds, while also dividing that speed between multiple users remotely streaming from my Plex server.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    A factor that comes to mind as someone who also runs a Plex server with friends is the importance of hard-linking vs copying files. I may be projecting my own experience from when I first started sailing the seas, but you can save a lot of storage space once you learn you can have a torrent folder AND an organized TV/movie folder(s) without doubling your media collection size!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    I'm on 150 mbps and get 0.00 ratio on most torrents. The trackers own guide says to use autobrr on a decent seedbox as the only reliable way to build ratio.

    I think my best torrent is at around 7.0 after 2 or 3 years, all the others are under 1.0

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    BS.
    Either you fetch only unpopular media or you arent responding fast enough to requests (I think the time is relevant when talking NVMe vs HDD storage).
    My 1gbit seedbox with HDD storage is maybe tickled most on public trackers and even there it's meh.
    Think my best upload on a private tracker was 20 MiB/s for about 2-3 min before someone else snatched the leech requests.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

    I just have a computer on my home network, which is also the media server.

    That, my dear friend, is a seedbox, that you had to pay for, and whose continued uptime you have to pay for. It also reduces all the other upload you can do, which is also payment. So okay, maybe my "dedicated" was wrong, but still.

    Apart from that...

    Think about this logically. If people join private trackers and only upload/download from each other, what happens if one person has a ratio of 56?

    It means that 55 people have to have a ratio of 0 or 77 people of 0.25, etc. So, people with such high ratios can only exist if there are others who become leechers. And "becoming a leecher" just means you relatively invest less in seeding than others.

    Private trackers work only if you are in the top x% of seeders. The more "super-seeders" there are, the more you have to invest yourself, essentially artificially increasing the barrier of entry more and more.

    It's just a very stupid system.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You are describing a hard ratio system - a private tracker with no freeleech, no bonus points, just a strict ratio system. Most private trackers don't operate that way.

    Your math falls apart once you consider people downloading freeleech torrents without having the torrents count against their ratio, or people generating bonus points just by seeding torrents and then using those bonus points to improve their ratio (bonus points converted to upload data for example). There are even private trackers that are ratioless and basically exist on minimum seed time, seeding bonus points, etc.

    Long term seeders at most private trackers end up with so many seed bonus points, or just accumulated upload data, that the private tracker becomes essentially ratioless even if it technically still tracks ratio.

    I don't care if you like private trackers or not, you do you, just mentioning your logic doesn't make a ton of sense.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Well, then I guess I only got into those trackers. Point me to where I can find those like you say. But wait - it's probably not going to be possible to get into those.

    It's just such a weird system

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Torrentleech will open signups usually on ebery major holiday and around black friday.
    Or look at r/opensignups and related pages on the web to join one which interests you.

    Other trackers will do usually do that on an anniversary or by invite forums on affiliated trackers.
    And for those forums you just need to meet the required ratio/upload and account age.
    But those "high value" trackers are rarely worth it as most content will trickle down to the lower tiers with lower requirements.

    Specialty trackers are hard and rarely worth it as well (except if only they can get what you need).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    That's only under the assumption that everyone downloads everything or only the same things...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Individually, yes, by correct selection of torrents you can "game" the system to your advantage. But you are wrong in the sense that the whole system in total still works like I say, if you're good at selecting the right torrent, then another person has to not be good at it, which then in turn will be the one without the good ratio.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    If all like the new movie than only a late newcomer will be "shafted".
    And that user only needs to play the patient game until another user with the same quality requirements and.or preferences comes along.

    It's just like the real life favor game.
    Give a favor, receive a favor.
    Fill a request, get download ratio you can use elsewhere on something you want.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I have a 2TB seedbox relatively low end on a shared setup running just fine.
    About 3TB upload on my best tracker.

    Just need to know how to play the game.
    Speed vs Patience.

    And you obviously havent spend enough energy (about 2h of thinking) on how to play the game.

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