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[–] 131 points 2 weeks ago (96 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

    Aside from Kamala, the others had primaries. Primaries historically have 10% voter turnout. Blame the people that don't vote in primaries then bitch about bad candidates.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah these people are just blind party loyalists who would gladly watch the world burn just so long as they feel like they got a 'win' out of it. That's why they're willing to nonsensically blame everyone except those controlling the levers for how the levers are being controlled.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    Delegate voters are who matter, and the "super delegates." Not popular vote and of course you're ignoring the fact they hamstrung his campaign otherwise it doesn't fit your narrative.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Wrong and conveniently ignored everything else.

    20,000 emails from seven senior DNC officials, including Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz disagrees with you. The correspondence revealed that party leadership privately favored Hillary Clinton and discussed strategies to undermine Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign, such as questioning his religious faith and dismissing his campaign manager Jeff Weaver as a "liar."

    https://www.reuters.com/article/world/democratic-national-committee-apologizes-to-sanders-over-emails-idUSKCN1052BN/

    They admitted it was sabotage and formally apologized. The disclaimer that the emails didn't "reflect the views of the DNC" is hard to swallow since it was 20,000 emails from leadership.

    the Obama White House and Senate leadership, coordinated to suppress Sanders to prevent him from facing Donald Trump. Allegations include limiting debate appearances, media blackouts, and the strategic withdrawal of rival candidates to consolidate votes behind Joe Biden in 2020. Elizabeth Warren and former DNC Chair Donna Brazile have acknowledged the 2016 primary was "rigged" against Sanders.

    https://time.com/4362402/how-president-obama-will-pressure-bernie-sanders/

    Examples of the DNC / party establishment opposing progressive candidates in elections:

    The DCCC blacklisted any consultant who worked with progressive candidates. Marie Newman lost four consultants within a month.

    1. DSCC / Senate Majority PAC 2020 Primaries Spent $15M+ to help moderate candidates defeat progressive primary challengers.

    2. Nina Turner vs. Shontel Brown (OH-11, 2020) Biden and Clyburn intervened to back corporate-friendly Brown over progressive Turner, with help from a pro-Israel super PAC.

    3. Jessica Cisneros vs. Henry Cuellar (TX-28, 2022) Pelosi, Clyburn, and other House leaders backed Cuellar (under FBI investigation) over progressive challenger Cisneros. AOC called it "an utter failure of leadership."

    4. DCCC Endorses Bains over Villegas (CA-22, 2026) DCCC endorsed centrist Bains over progressive Villegas. The Congressional Progressive Caucus PAC called it "undemocratic."

    5. Michigan Senate Primary (2026) Establishment-backed Haley Stevens vs. progressive Abdul El-Sayed drew $58.6M in super PAC spending, mostly against El-Sayed. AOC personally transferred $1M to help. Pressley called the DSCC's spending "shameful."

    6. Colorado Primary (2026) National Democrats injected $2.4M via super PACs against progressive challenger Kiros to protect incumbent DeGette.

    7. DCCC Spending Disparity (2018) DCCC spent $340K on progressive Rob Quist (MT) vs. millions for centrist John Ossoff (GA). A DCCC-commissioned report discouraged members from campaigning on Medicare for All.

    8. Team Blue PAC (2022) Hakeem Jeffries co-founded an explicitly anti-progressive PAC to protect establishment incumbents.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

    What’s interesting about them, and by interesting, I mean batshit stupid, is that they’ll be happy to take the credit in discussions about how non-voting sends a message to the establishment parties, but they become instant victims the moment the conversation becomes about how they helped trump to the throne.

    And here’s where it gets funny:

    All the credit; none of the blame. Who does that remind you of?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Nailed the vibe so perfectly.

    I wish I could up-vote you about 1000x. 😮‍💨👌

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    It’s no end of insanity to see this shit every day. And the fact that they think no one notices this is just embarrassing for them.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children)

    Nuh uh! They are moral angels, you monster!! /s

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Not casting a vote is a vote.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (5 children)

    Do you think this is clever or something? Are you the first person to act obtuse and pretend not to understand something?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    by abstaining they lowered the total number of votes by one, effectively helping the winner of the vote

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Except, they did vote for this.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Except, they did vote for this. Kthx.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    You are being deliberately obtuse and intellectually disingenuous here.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    America isn't this way because of Trump. Trump is this way because of America.

    Trump isn't the hero America needs, but he's the one America deserves. It's just a shame the rest of the world has to suffer because of American ignorance, entitlement and apathy.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children)

    Then why are the grand majority disapproving of him? His latest polls show 31-33% approval.

    You people know nothing of what's going on here. You just espouse subjective rhetoric that Trump himself and the GOP loves to read.

    What could be better than natural allies across borders unifying? Division is Trump's goal, and we can all see that clear as day. You're an accomplice to these evil people if your here to create the same results, perhaps even a "useful idiot".

    Rethink your actions and words, lest you be exactly what I suspect you to be: a blatent propagandist targeting the western world.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    Fascism is imperialism turned inwards. All this shit we've been doing to other countries (and foreign policy is consistently bipartisan) is now coming back to us.

    It doesn't matter if the majority disapprove, Trump doesn't represent the things done in the US' brightest moments, he is the culminatiom and the product of the shadows. The nepobaby of a filthy rich, white supremacist mega-landlord in NY, shaped by reality TV that glamorized the most antisocial parts of human behavior, the product of no consequences for rich people despite fucking over THOUSANDS of contactors, employees, and businesses. I could go on about Epstein, Daniels, etc.

    Are you surprised this empire doesn't show off its dark underbelly proudly?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

    This is what you're achieving by braindead infighting.

    They spent decades and trillions of dollars on making sure Americans can't unite. Looks like the investment paid off.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    It's not infighting, neo-liberals are conservatives, they're not the left as they're portrayed to be in news and media. The gulf of ideology between a leftist and neo-liberal is huge.

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  • They have a rot in their brain that if you're not voting for them you're voting for the other guy because somehow that's how voting works. Despite the fact that the majority of the USA voting does not matter because of how the voting system is presently setup. I can vote Democrat until I explode but it won't make a difference I'm deep in MAGA state.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    While I agree with the sentiment, protest non-voting is already tantamount to infighting. This comment is just pointing fingers to set blame on another, which is stupid. But at the same time, calling for protest non-voters to unify with the rest of us should be the goal. That is the opposite of infighting. That's not exactly what OP was doing, but that is the remedy.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    That's not exactly what OP was doing, but that is the remedy.

    No. They were pointing fingers at, shaming the other side, and/or blaming it for the problems.

    There's nothing whatsoever about unity in that message, and that's the problem.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (6 children)

    Me: vote.

    You: stop telling people to vote! (Or whatever that was.)

    Unreal.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Well I'm sorry to inform you that Harris voters are the ones who voted for this. If they hadn't thrown their votes away in protest by voting for a losing candidate, Trump wouldn't be in office right now.

    See how useful your argument (or "information") is?

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