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Trump's Voter Raids Have Begun (www.motherjones.com)
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[–] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (16 children)

It is that easy! It's not like progressives and leftists are sandbagged by the "vote blue no matter who" Dems right?

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-skewered-republicans-funding-these-maga-losers-1758128

It's not like the Dems sabatoged Bernie, twice, right? Vote in the primaries, it's that easy

They wouldn't sabotage PROGRESSIVES to help REPUBLICANS AND CENTRISTS if you voted in the primaries "The DCCC released opposition research against progressive candidate Laura Moser in Texas and pressured progressive challengers out of races in Colorado, Pennsylvania, and California to support centrist or well-funded establishment candidates." https://inthesetimes.com/features/dccc_left_progressive_challengers_laura_moser_campaign_finance.html

"In Nebraska’s 2nd District, the DCCC lent a hand to Brad Ashford—a former Republican who favors abortion restrictions—at the expense of his more progressive primary challenger Kara Eastman, who supports reproductive rights, Medicare for All and other progressive policies. Over in Virginia’s 2nd, the DCCC swung in early behind businesswoman Elaine Luria, a military veteran who twice voted for her Republican opponent, over Karen Mallard, a union member who supports a $15 minimum wage and universal healthcare."

Same source as above and there way more.

So it seems pretty simple, Dems can tell anyone they want to fuck off (except fellow centrists and Republicans), while the rest of us are automatically MAGA if we don't support "blue no matter who" despite constant opposition and disdain from a party that hates us because they are RIGHT WING

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah these people are just blind party loyalists who would gladly watch the world burn just so long as they feel like they got a 'win' out of it. That's why they're willing to nonsensically blame everyone except those controlling the levers for how the levers are being controlled.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

    It’s not like the Dems sabatoged Bernie, twice, right?

    Bernie lost the popular vote in the primaries both times. Voters didn't show up for him.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    Delegate voters are who matter, and the "super delegates." Not popular vote and of course you're ignoring the fact they hamstrung his campaign otherwise it doesn't fit your narrative.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Except he still lost the popular vote too, overwhelmingly, because progressives don't vote in primaries. With no DNC shenanigans he still loses handily, BECAUSE PROGRESSIVES DON'T FUCKING VOTE IN PRIMARIES.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Much like in the general election for President, POPULAR VOTES DON'T MATTER WITH THE DNC. It comes down to getting either a winning amount of the delegates or the "super delegates."

    And let's try addressing the elephant in the room now, why would the DNC go to such means to ensure Bernie Sanders doesn't win the nomination?

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  • [+] 1 point 2 weeks ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    I do vote in primaries and in every election. So I'm gonna burn that strawman there because you evidently don't have further arguments.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    IF VOTING DIDN'T WORK THE REPUBLICANS WOULD NOT BE TRYING TO TAKE IT FROM YOU. VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION INCLUDING THE PRIMARIES OR YOU CONDONE THE WINNER. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR REPRESENTATION.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Yeah, you're just blue maga at this point. Not worth engaging with because you're even yelling at me despite I vote.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Blue MAGA is both sides rebranded, congratulations you're repeating republican Russian propaganda. You're a trump supporter.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    And by the by, it's not both sides, Democrats and their leadership are neo-liberal and that's a conservative ideology. You're not the left, stop thinking you are.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago

    Every time a neo-liberal loses their cool to me, I see them without their mask. You act no better than MAGA that you despise so much. You have no understanding of how our voting system actually works, political leanings, and terminology. The popular vote doesn't matter, it's the electoral college that does, in fact didn't Trump lose the popular vote the first time?

    You're coming into discussions about leftism ideology and places, demand everyone think like you, adhere to your principles, then get angry when we say No.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Wrong and conveniently ignored everything else.

    20,000 emails from seven senior DNC officials, including Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz disagrees with you. The correspondence revealed that party leadership privately favored Hillary Clinton and discussed strategies to undermine Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign, such as questioning his religious faith and dismissing his campaign manager Jeff Weaver as a "liar."

    https://www.reuters.com/article/world/democratic-national-committee-apologizes-to-sanders-over-emails-idUSKCN1052BN/

    They admitted it was sabotage and formally apologized. The disclaimer that the emails didn't "reflect the views of the DNC" is hard to swallow since it was 20,000 emails from leadership.

    the Obama White House and Senate leadership, coordinated to suppress Sanders to prevent him from facing Donald Trump. Allegations include limiting debate appearances, media blackouts, and the strategic withdrawal of rival candidates to consolidate votes behind Joe Biden in 2020. Elizabeth Warren and former DNC Chair Donna Brazile have acknowledged the 2016 primary was "rigged" against Sanders.

    https://time.com/4362402/how-president-obama-will-pressure-bernie-sanders/

    Examples of the DNC / party establishment opposing progressive candidates in elections:

    The DCCC blacklisted any consultant who worked with progressive candidates. Marie Newman lost four consultants within a month.

    1. DSCC / Senate Majority PAC 2020 Primaries Spent $15M+ to help moderate candidates defeat progressive primary challengers.

    2. Nina Turner vs. Shontel Brown (OH-11, 2020) Biden and Clyburn intervened to back corporate-friendly Brown over progressive Turner, with help from a pro-Israel super PAC.

    3. Jessica Cisneros vs. Henry Cuellar (TX-28, 2022) Pelosi, Clyburn, and other House leaders backed Cuellar (under FBI investigation) over progressive challenger Cisneros. AOC called it "an utter failure of leadership."

    4. DCCC Endorses Bains over Villegas (CA-22, 2026) DCCC endorsed centrist Bains over progressive Villegas. The Congressional Progressive Caucus PAC called it "undemocratic."

    5. Michigan Senate Primary (2026) Establishment-backed Haley Stevens vs. progressive Abdul El-Sayed drew $58.6M in super PAC spending, mostly against El-Sayed. AOC personally transferred $1M to help. Pressley called the DSCC's spending "shameful."

    6. Colorado Primary (2026) National Democrats injected $2.4M via super PACs against progressive challenger Kiros to protect incumbent DeGette.

    7. DCCC Spending Disparity (2018) DCCC spent $340K on progressive Rob Quist (MT) vs. millions for centrist John Ossoff (GA). A DCCC-commissioned report discouraged members from campaigning on Medicare for All.

    8. Team Blue PAC (2022) Hakeem Jeffries co-founded an explicitly anti-progressive PAC to protect establishment incumbents.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    They will never understand this simple fact. There either weren't enough Bernie supporters in the first place or far too many stayed home for the primary. And very nearly every Bernie voter in the primary went for Hillary in the general. There wasn't a conspiracy, progressives just don't vote. If they did, we'd have a progressive democratic party.

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