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[+] -25 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

I don't wear a seatbelt. I just stopped caring. I do when I'm transporting others, but that's pretty rare.

Not saying it's smart. Just saying I don't care anymore.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Thing is, you don't care - but it's not about you is it.... The passers-by that witness your body on the floor, after you're ejected from your car. Traumatised for life.

    The paramedics trying their absolute best to keep you alive when you're thrown around the inside of your car because you swerved to avoid hitting a kid...

    The firefighters that have to try to get you out of your burning, crumpled vehicle when you're wedged between the driver and passenger seat...

    Your family, or friends, knowing you've died traumatically.

    Your close family caring for you for the rest of your life because a relatively minor accident made you paraplegic .

    It's not about you, mate. Any number of things could happen to those around you, because you were top selfish to wear a seatbelt.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The passers-by that witness your body on the floor, after you’re ejected from your car. Traumatised for life.

    Honestly, I'm not really concerned about this. I don't go through my life trying to limit the chances of people potentially, in an extreme and unlikely situation, seeing my mangled body.

    The paramedics trying their absolute best to keep you alive

    I have paramedic friends. Wouldn't phase them. They see mangled bodies on the daily.

    The firefighters that have to try to get you out of your burning, crumpled vehicle

    They do this regardless of whether people wear seatbelts or not.

    Your family, or friends, knowing you’ve died traumatically.

    This one's fair. But the people close to me know how I am and most of them are realists. People die. You move on. Once you're old enough you've had enough people you know, including peers, die that you get better at coping. If I was really concerned about preserving myself for others, I'd never get in another vehicle again because they're the most dangerous thing we do in our daily lives.

    Your close family caring for you for the rest of your life because a relatively minor accident made you paraplegic

    Oh I'd take care of myself in that situation. Now, I understand that I could be completely paralyzed and not able to kill myself. That's the one real flaw in this habit of mine, but I just roll the dice on that one. It's pretty unlikely.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    As a firefighting disability support worker who has witnessed what families go through on all sides of what I spoke about (which I only said because I can speak with knowledge on the matter),

    I have to disagree entirely with your take.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    okay but do you not care if your body becomes a cannonball in a crash? Like if you eject out of the front window you can literally kill someone if you hit them with your headless body.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago

    okay but do you not care if your body becomes a cannonball in a crash?

    I'll go ahead and accept that this is, in fact, a possibility, but so extremely unlikely that I'm not really going to entertain it.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    do the EMTs a favor and drown yourself in the tub after calling for a wellness check.

    I scraped brains off pavement. picked up skull fragments from a dashboard.

    you know what happens to the eye after it reaches terminal velocity? it jellifies and bursts like an overripe kiwi. and if you manage to stay conscious during, your vision gets stretched and watery and then pops to black. the alternative is your eye pops out of socket and now you can look at your feet at the same time you can look up.

    all this is heavily reliant on the glass from the windshield not shredding your eyes first.

    you know what most people who don't wear a seatbelt think as they are ejected from their vehicle? "I wish I had wore my seatbelt." at least that's what the ones that survive say.

    wear a fucking seatbelt. if not for you, for the EMTs that will inevitably be require to have fever dreams about your gelatinous corpse for the rest of their lives if you don't.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Eh. I don't go through life trying to prevent others from seeing my mangled body in the extreme and unlikely event that it happens that way.

    I know EMTs. They tell me stories gorier than my mangled body all the time. They're pretty desensitized to it all. Probably shouldn't do the job if you can't be.

    But yeah, I would, theoretically, feel bad about making them clean my goop up. But that's also someone's literal job that they get paid for. Cleaning up human goop.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    If you don't care anymore, than don't take anyone else with you if you choose to kill yourself.

    Just because you don't care doesn't mean people want to see you harm others from your own self destruction.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    If you don’t care anymore, than don’t take anyone else with you if you choose to kill yourself.

    How exactly would that work if no one else is in the vehicle with me? Which I clearly stated in my original comment.

    If I crash while not wearing a seatbelt, I get hurt or die. Anyone else not in my vehicle with me is going to get hurt or not hurt the same whether I'm wearing a setbelt or not.

    Hop of that high horse and learn to read.

    Edit: And please don't tell me my body would become a lethal projectile that hurts/kills someone else. That's so unlikely I don't really care to consider it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    You're going to fucking love being paralyzed in a nursing home getting septic from the unchanged tubes up every hole in your body and the pressure ulcers because the staff is too busy to turn or bathe you from an accident that you could have walked away from without a scrape.

    And not all EMTs are unphased by that shit. Some are unbothered, some will never admit it to a non first responder, and some are unbothered until they are. First responders have a higher PTSD rate than the military. Anyone who's been a first responder for any amount of time knows some who has committed suicide or who has attempted suicide. I know you don't care, because you're a massive POS who doesn't give a shit about anything, but I run EMS and I'm sick as fuck of having to deal with selfish people like you who don't give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves and then inevitably cry like the biggest babies in the world once consequences come down.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    In the event of an accident, there are many cases where, if you are wearing your seatbelt, being physically held into the driver's seat will allow you to maintain control for longer, or even regain control, when you otherwise would not.

    I'm from a place with a LOT of rain, and a LOT of ice, and I have personally been in three auto accidents at at least 30 mph. We are taught the simple truth that we will be in accidents, and that learning to mitigate them, when prevention is impossible, is paramount. In one case, the car literally ended up doing a 180, but my father was able to regain control afterward and prevent us from running into a cliff wall. He would have been unquestionably incapable of doing so had he not been wearing his seatbelt. To this day, it is the greatest example of alacrity in a crisis that I've been privileged to witness. In another, my mother was able to maintain control as we skidded off the road from a sudden hydroplane, managing to make it into a farmer's field, rather than flipping the car. In the third, black ice prevented me from stopping as I traveled downhill (the cop who responded nearly biffed it getting put of his car, the ice was so thin and invisible it looked like nothing but mist), and the person in front of me, stopped in the middle of the road, did not have their turn signal on. I had just started to pull to get around them, forcing the belt to cut into my shoulder, when I realised they had just started turning the same direction without a signal. Had I been flung by the force of my initial swerve and unable to maintain control, I would have plowed into their driver door, but instead, I was able to just barely course-correct to the right, skimming their right rear bumper instead. Among the three accidents, no injuries, and the only one of the three which involved a collision with anything thicker than a few stalks of wheat was mine, which nearly ended with me t-boning the idiot in front of me.

    Get over yourself, because there are damn important reasons you need to care, in spite of the fact you appear to value your own life so little.

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