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[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -11 points 3 weeks ago (26 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The US Empire is a major part of the reason why Russia is the way it is today, and is far more damaging at a global scale. The US has always been worse than Russia ever since the USSR was established. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* The soviets were on the correct side in Afghanistan, even if it did not work out. The Stalin era was not perfect by any means, but it was better than the Khrushchev era, and especially the Gorbachev era. "Stalinism" isn't really a thing to begin with. 5 year plans were tremendously successful on the whole, which is why they are a staple feature of many socialist countries today. The USSR wasn't perfect, that isn't my point. My point is that the US Empire has always been worse than post-Tsarist Russia, whether it be during its much better socialist period or the worse modern capitalist period, simply due to how horrendous the US Empire is. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* LOL germans gonna germ always on the wrong side of history permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (22 children) How many millions of people does the US have to kill before you're willing to accept that it's bad? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -12 points 3 weeks ago (22 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (17 children) There is no way they are comparable. The US was established by slaveowners through a genocide of indigenous people, with the blood of African slaves. After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes. Not to talk about the amount of people starved to death in the global south through IMF and other instruments of imperial hegemony. The RF might have been up to some heinous shit at some point, but there is absolutely no way they are comparable or equal. You gotta stop deluding yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago most likely yeah, got stuck on overthinking technicalities and not knowing enough about shit in the 19th century and such permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 3 weeks ago (15 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You deepthroated the cool aid You are regurgitating all the cliché western fascist propaganda BS. What else can you find in your little black book of communism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children) Oh wow, Goebbels' human wave myth in the big 2026. i was right to tag you as "shitlib", mut maybe "fascist" would be more accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What is this tagging? I've seen it mentioned a few times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago .de, 100% fascist permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I don't think you are good at math permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago you really are a caricature permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) youre a nazi piece of shit, fucking go die in a putrid ditch. you know how things are, you know the us is a nazi empire. don't pretend you don't know acting all innocent. piece of shit, trying to even thinking about comparing any country, even nazi germany, with the worst offender in war crimes in human history. you are fucking pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago i don't owe you shit, much less respect. fick dich. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The US Empire is a major part of the reason why Russia is the way it is today, and is far more damaging at a global scale. The US has always been worse than Russia ever since the USSR was established. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* The soviets were on the correct side in Afghanistan, even if it did not work out. The Stalin era was not perfect by any means, but it was better than the Khrushchev era, and especially the Gorbachev era. "Stalinism" isn't really a thing to begin with. 5 year plans were tremendously successful on the whole, which is why they are a staple feature of many socialist countries today. The USSR wasn't perfect, that isn't my point. My point is that the US Empire has always been worse than post-Tsarist Russia, whether it be during its much better socialist period or the worse modern capitalist period, simply due to how horrendous the US Empire is. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* The soviets were on the correct side in Afghanistan, even if it did not work out. The Stalin era was not perfect by any means, but it was better than the Khrushchev era, and especially the Gorbachev era. "Stalinism" isn't really a thing to begin with. 5 year plans were tremendously successful on the whole, which is why they are a staple feature of many socialist countries today. The USSR wasn't perfect, that isn't my point. My point is that the US Empire has always been worse than post-Tsarist Russia, whether it be during its much better socialist period or the worse modern capitalist period, simply due to how horrendous the US Empire is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* The soviets were on the correct side in Afghanistan, even if it did not work out. The Stalin era was not perfect by any means, but it was better than the Khrushchev era, and especially the Gorbachev era. "Stalinism" isn't really a thing to begin with. 5 year plans were tremendously successful on the whole, which is why they are a staple feature of many socialist countries today. The USSR wasn't perfect, that isn't my point. My point is that the US Empire has always been worse than post-Tsarist Russia, whether it be during its much better socialist period or the worse modern capitalist period, simply due to how horrendous the US Empire is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* LOL germans gonna germ always on the wrong side of history permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (22 children) How many millions of people does the US have to kill before you're willing to accept that it's bad? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -12 points 3 weeks ago (22 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (17 children) There is no way they are comparable. The US was established by slaveowners through a genocide of indigenous people, with the blood of African slaves. After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes. Not to talk about the amount of people starved to death in the global south through IMF and other instruments of imperial hegemony. The RF might have been up to some heinous shit at some point, but there is absolutely no way they are comparable or equal. You gotta stop deluding yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago most likely yeah, got stuck on overthinking technicalities and not knowing enough about shit in the 19th century and such permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 3 weeks ago (15 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You deepthroated the cool aid You are regurgitating all the cliché western fascist propaganda BS. What else can you find in your little black book of communism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children) Oh wow, Goebbels' human wave myth in the big 2026. i was right to tag you as "shitlib", mut maybe "fascist" would be more accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What is this tagging? I've seen it mentioned a few times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago .de, 100% fascist permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I don't think you are good at math permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago you really are a caricature permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) youre a nazi piece of shit, fucking go die in a putrid ditch. you know how things are, you know the us is a nazi empire. don't pretend you don't know acting all innocent. piece of shit, trying to even thinking about comparing any country, even nazi germany, with the worst offender in war crimes in human history. you are fucking pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago i don't owe you shit, much less respect. fick dich. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -12 points 3 weeks ago (22 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (17 children) There is no way they are comparable. The US was established by slaveowners through a genocide of indigenous people, with the blood of African slaves. After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes. Not to talk about the amount of people starved to death in the global south through IMF and other instruments of imperial hegemony. The RF might have been up to some heinous shit at some point, but there is absolutely no way they are comparable or equal. You gotta stop deluding yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago most likely yeah, got stuck on overthinking technicalities and not knowing enough about shit in the 19th century and such permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 3 weeks ago (15 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You deepthroated the cool aid You are regurgitating all the cliché western fascist propaganda BS. What else can you find in your little black book of communism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children) Oh wow, Goebbels' human wave myth in the big 2026. i was right to tag you as "shitlib", mut maybe "fascist" would be more accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What is this tagging? I've seen it mentioned a few times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago .de, 100% fascist permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I don't think you are good at math permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago you really are a caricature permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) youre a nazi piece of shit, fucking go die in a putrid ditch. you know how things are, you know the us is a nazi empire. don't pretend you don't know acting all innocent. piece of shit, trying to even thinking about comparing any country, even nazi germany, with the worst offender in war crimes in human history. you are fucking pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago i don't owe you shit, much less respect. fick dich. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (17 children) There is no way they are comparable. The US was established by slaveowners through a genocide of indigenous people, with the blood of African slaves. After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes. Not to talk about the amount of people starved to death in the global south through IMF and other instruments of imperial hegemony. The RF might have been up to some heinous shit at some point, but there is absolutely no way they are comparable or equal. You gotta stop deluding yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago most likely yeah, got stuck on overthinking technicalities and not knowing enough about shit in the 19th century and such permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 3 weeks ago (15 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You deepthroated the cool aid You are regurgitating all the cliché western fascist propaganda BS. What else can you find in your little black book of communism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children) Oh wow, Goebbels' human wave myth in the big 2026. i was right to tag you as "shitlib", mut maybe "fascist" would be more accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What is this tagging? I've seen it mentioned a few times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago .de, 100% fascist permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) After WWII every war the US has engaged in has been riddled with war crimes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago most likely yeah, got stuck on overthinking technicalities and not knowing enough about shit in the 19th century and such permalink fedilink source parent
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago most likely yeah, got stuck on overthinking technicalities and not knowing enough about shit in the 19th century and such permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 3 weeks ago (15 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You deepthroated the cool aid You are regurgitating all the cliché western fascist propaganda BS. What else can you find in your little black book of communism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children) Oh wow, Goebbels' human wave myth in the big 2026. i was right to tag you as "shitlib", mut maybe "fascist" would be more accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What is this tagging? I've seen it mentioned a few times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago .de, 100% fascist permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You deepthroated the cool aid You are regurgitating all the cliché western fascist propaganda BS. What else can you find in your little black book of communism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What leader do you pledge your allegiance to See, this is fortunately where we differ. Unlike you I do not come to conclusions or 'believe' stuff according to 'a leader' or ideology. I use verifiable facts and history which have shown your regurgitated propaganda as the BS it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Sources? We're not talking about one specific event. You would need a full library for the gigantic span of Russia/Soviet era compared to the US. How bout you do some work, you could start of by looking for articles critical of your beloved little black book, that one is easily debunked. Who knows you might learn something when you're out of your circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I verified up here (what I knew already) and I have written about exactly ZERO specific events. No wonder you don't understand the world when you're this confused. Or I could be terribly wrong and you can undoubtedly show me which specific events I wrote about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago OK that's progress permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
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[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children) Oh wow, Goebbels' human wave myth in the big 2026. i was right to tag you as "shitlib", mut maybe "fascist" would be more accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What is this tagging? I've seen it mentioned a few times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago .de, 100% fascist permalink fedilink source parent [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) What is this tagging? I've seen it mentioned a few times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Some apps allow tagging, which isn't a feature on the web version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yup. I use thunder on mobile, which implements this feature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago I see, thanks to both of you! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Mannerheim, oh lord. The White Butcher, the very same who bombed the ice road to Leningrad and (unverified) put up our own concentration camps? You really do fly your colours high don't you? The colors of Suur-Suomi, the one with the swastikas and only a blonde, blue-eyed population. No roma or karelians here! Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) The bombing of the ice-road seems to be a misconception of mine, though I personally wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities. Most contemporary Finns really don't really like engaging with their own history critically. On the concentration camps in Karelia though one can find multiple sources, like this, or this one that delves deeper into Finland's past, also discussing Finnish treatment of Jews during the war. On the issue of The White Butcher (ie. the deeds of the White Finns and Mannerheim against the Reds in the Civil War in 1918): many of the sources I found were in Finnish, but some can be found in English. Such as this, this. The whites tended to "shoot on sight", under Mannerheim's decree, with the local church unsurprisingly playing tow to anti-communist messaging. Seems to be a skill-issue, huh? Do you have any sources on your claims of human waves? I'm willing to take a gander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Just wikipedia huh. You mentioned American, Ukrainian and Russian sources regarding human waves in the current war in Ukraine, but I guess those don't exist, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Oh yeah, look at that... "White House reports", "According to Ukrainian officials"... forgive me, but I'm kinda suspicious of these sources. One claims to be Bloomberg but redirects to Washington Post's or whatever homepage with no article in sight. The one Russian milblogger that I found through there seemed to use the term in complaining about inadequate air support and artillery coverage during assaults, which is probably true as drone warfare mixed things up a lot. The other claims of inadequate leadership also probably stand. The fact that during WWII the whole concept of the Soviets using human wave attacks was cope and propaganda by the Nazis (especially Goebbels) to explain how their glorious aryan soldiers armed with their glorious Wunderwaffen could lose so spectacularly to the untermensch. This was taken further by the US who employed Nazi generals and their memoirs to shape the narrative in the Cold War world. Here's a source, many others can be found. Was there a kernel of truth in this? Yes, the Red Army wasn't that well organized when the invasion began, and employed many poorly organized battalions of mostly peasant backgrounds. Add to this the purges in the upper echelons of the Army (done to prevent counter-revolution by fifth columnists) led to many losses. I hope you can start to see why some of your claims got the reaction they got. People (liberals and openly fascist alike) who come around here usually only have the same few talking points, and people around here are understandably completely fed up with them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I don't think you are good at math permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago you really are a caricature permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago you really are a caricature permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago you really are a caricature permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) youre a nazi piece of shit, fucking go die in a putrid ditch. you know how things are, you know the us is a nazi empire. don't pretend you don't know acting all innocent. piece of shit, trying to even thinking about comparing any country, even nazi germany, with the worst offender in war crimes in human history. you are fucking pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago i don't owe you shit, much less respect. fick dich. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago i don't owe you shit, much less respect. fick dich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago i don't owe you shit, much less respect. fick dich. permalink fedilink source parent