▲ 400 ▼ Iranian singer’s 74 lashes for performing without a hijab ‘a form of torture’, say rights groups (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 month ago by cm0002@lemy.lol to c/world 88 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (9 children) @ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world The wonders of Islam, eh. permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (7 children) That's like reading the Sermon on the Mount and then pointing at evangelical megachurches or the Crusades and saying "the wonders of Jesus huh". Silly man. Go read the Qur'an, no more no less, and find the "if you don't wear a veil you get lashed" line. I'll agree with you if you find them, go go. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (3 children) Ah, the no true Scotsman argument. Never mind that every Islamic country pulls the same bullshit to some extent or the other. Go join the tankies over there in the denial corner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children) No, you silly goose. If you say "hey, I'm X" but actually do Y, you're just being dishonest, with others and yourself, and that can be at the personal or the societal level. If you say you're a good husband but beat up your wife, you're not one, same if you're a follower of Jesus but are all about profit and power, and ofc same if you're a follower of Muhammed and go against everything the divine message put forth (including "to you your religion and to me mine", which is again in the Qur'an). You just lack the intellectual capacity or courage to make the distinction between a person who says A and does A and a person who says A but beats children. But what can I expect from someone who just tagged me to "prove me wrong" or whatever. Enjoy the attention I've provided you, and remember to be wise and kind. 👋 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) God you're a pretentious dick. There's so many holes in your statements, but I don't think I want to get trolled that way. Living in Malaysia, I've got enough Islamic nuts around me as it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* Stay safe and may God guide you. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 points 1 month ago But Musk said in a tweet that grok said it's on page 404 /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud Scriptural basis Hudud offenses with prescribed punishments are mentioned in the Quran. The punishments for these offenses are drawn from both the Quran and the Sunnah. The Quran does not define the offenses precisely: their definitions were elaborated in fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence). Hududullah, or the "limits of God", is a phrase found several times in the Quran, but not as a label for a particular type of crime. The Quran warns Muslims of the sin of transgressing the limits, which should not even be approached (Quran 2:187). But nowhere does the phrase appear in the clear context of labeling certain crimes (see Quran, 2:229, 4:14, 58:4, 65:1), though 4:14 is followed by discussion of sexual impropriety.[22] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Exactly! 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago Wonders? No I'm pretty sure it was peace... 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (7 children) That's like reading the Sermon on the Mount and then pointing at evangelical megachurches or the Crusades and saying "the wonders of Jesus huh". Silly man. Go read the Qur'an, no more no less, and find the "if you don't wear a veil you get lashed" line. I'll agree with you if you find them, go go. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (3 children) Ah, the no true Scotsman argument. Never mind that every Islamic country pulls the same bullshit to some extent or the other. Go join the tankies over there in the denial corner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children) No, you silly goose. If you say "hey, I'm X" but actually do Y, you're just being dishonest, with others and yourself, and that can be at the personal or the societal level. If you say you're a good husband but beat up your wife, you're not one, same if you're a follower of Jesus but are all about profit and power, and ofc same if you're a follower of Muhammed and go against everything the divine message put forth (including "to you your religion and to me mine", which is again in the Qur'an). You just lack the intellectual capacity or courage to make the distinction between a person who says A and does A and a person who says A but beats children. But what can I expect from someone who just tagged me to "prove me wrong" or whatever. Enjoy the attention I've provided you, and remember to be wise and kind. 👋 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) God you're a pretentious dick. There's so many holes in your statements, but I don't think I want to get trolled that way. Living in Malaysia, I've got enough Islamic nuts around me as it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* Stay safe and may God guide you. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 points 1 month ago But Musk said in a tweet that grok said it's on page 404 /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud Scriptural basis Hudud offenses with prescribed punishments are mentioned in the Quran. The punishments for these offenses are drawn from both the Quran and the Sunnah. The Quran does not define the offenses precisely: their definitions were elaborated in fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence). Hududullah, or the "limits of God", is a phrase found several times in the Quran, but not as a label for a particular type of crime. The Quran warns Muslims of the sin of transgressing the limits, which should not even be approached (Quran 2:187). But nowhere does the phrase appear in the clear context of labeling certain crimes (see Quran, 2:229, 4:14, 58:4, 65:1), though 4:14 is followed by discussion of sexual impropriety.[22] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Exactly! 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (3 children) Ah, the no true Scotsman argument. Never mind that every Islamic country pulls the same bullshit to some extent or the other. Go join the tankies over there in the denial corner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children) No, you silly goose. If you say "hey, I'm X" but actually do Y, you're just being dishonest, with others and yourself, and that can be at the personal or the societal level. If you say you're a good husband but beat up your wife, you're not one, same if you're a follower of Jesus but are all about profit and power, and ofc same if you're a follower of Muhammed and go against everything the divine message put forth (including "to you your religion and to me mine", which is again in the Qur'an). You just lack the intellectual capacity or courage to make the distinction between a person who says A and does A and a person who says A but beats children. But what can I expect from someone who just tagged me to "prove me wrong" or whatever. Enjoy the attention I've provided you, and remember to be wise and kind. 👋 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) God you're a pretentious dick. There's so many holes in your statements, but I don't think I want to get trolled that way. Living in Malaysia, I've got enough Islamic nuts around me as it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* Stay safe and may God guide you. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children) No, you silly goose. If you say "hey, I'm X" but actually do Y, you're just being dishonest, with others and yourself, and that can be at the personal or the societal level. If you say you're a good husband but beat up your wife, you're not one, same if you're a follower of Jesus but are all about profit and power, and ofc same if you're a follower of Muhammed and go against everything the divine message put forth (including "to you your religion and to me mine", which is again in the Qur'an). You just lack the intellectual capacity or courage to make the distinction between a person who says A and does A and a person who says A but beats children. But what can I expect from someone who just tagged me to "prove me wrong" or whatever. Enjoy the attention I've provided you, and remember to be wise and kind. 👋 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) God you're a pretentious dick. There's so many holes in your statements, but I don't think I want to get trolled that way. Living in Malaysia, I've got enough Islamic nuts around me as it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* Stay safe and may God guide you. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) God you're a pretentious dick. There's so many holes in your statements, but I don't think I want to get trolled that way. Living in Malaysia, I've got enough Islamic nuts around me as it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* Stay safe and may God guide you. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* Stay safe and may God guide you. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 points 1 month ago But Musk said in a tweet that grok said it's on page 404 /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud Scriptural basis Hudud offenses with prescribed punishments are mentioned in the Quran. The punishments for these offenses are drawn from both the Quran and the Sunnah. The Quran does not define the offenses precisely: their definitions were elaborated in fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence). Hududullah, or the "limits of God", is a phrase found several times in the Quran, but not as a label for a particular type of crime. The Quran warns Muslims of the sin of transgressing the limits, which should not even be approached (Quran 2:187). But nowhere does the phrase appear in the clear context of labeling certain crimes (see Quran, 2:229, 4:14, 58:4, 65:1), though 4:14 is followed by discussion of sexual impropriety.[22] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Exactly! 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Exactly! 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago Wonders? No I'm pretty sure it was peace... 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent