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[–] 1 point 1 month ago (26 children)

Tankies aren't Marxist or anarchists. Tankies are eastern imperialists and statists that like to call themselves Marxist.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    "Tankie", as used in online discourse, just means "person to my political left making an argument I can't refute".

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That is completely false and you know it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

    It is about shilling for authoritarian dictatorships like Russia and China.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    No, it means someone who would really love living in a dictatorship as long as the dictator was Xi Jinping, Stalin, or Kim Jong Un.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yes, that's the hyperbolic slander it tries to assert when in reality it is just a buzzword for imbeciles to use when they want to stop engaging with the argument.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Authoritarians are authoritarians, they just like different flavors of boot.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Authoritarian is a useless word. The US is far more authoritarian than anybody those supposed "dictatorships", but the serious people in suits you've outsourced all your thinking to would never say it out loud.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    See, that's the classic tankie shit I'm used to. Whataboutism and defending dictators.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    And there's the ShitLib thought-terminating cliches we know and love.

    Once you've called them "Tankie" you don't have to engage with any actual arguments they made, you can just dismiss them! And obviously any comparison between evil Tankie dictatorship and glorious free democracies is just "whataboutism", so you don't have to think critically about it at all!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    okay then please tell that to everyone calling me a tankie plsss

    the reality is that 'tankie' is one of those terms that gets stretched until it's just a pejorative for anyone to the left of the person using it.

    started as a specific reference to people who defended the soviet invasion of hungary in 1956, then it gets applied to anyone who doesn't denounce every socialist state on demand, now it's anyone who doesn't want to vote for biparitsan war consensus

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Sister, you're the one that decided that OP was lumping the anarchists and Marxists in with the tankies! You appear to be trying to claim that OP is portraying everyone who says 'both sides are the same' as tankies. A is a subset of B; B is not equal to A. Just because some people don't actually understand what 'tankie' means doesn't mean everyone shares that view, in the same way that 'liberal' doesn't actually mean 'everyone who votes Democrat'.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    You appear to be trying to claim that OP is portraying everyone who says ‘both sides are the same’ as tankies

    he is tho

    in the same way that ‘liberal’ doesn’t actually mean ‘everyone who votes Democrat’.

    yeah plenty of liberals are also republicans

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Okay, now I know you're just trolling.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago

    I have never encountered an ml user acting in good faith on here. They always come in packs and use alts to brigade communities and instances and hit every political thread hard trying to convince people not to vote dem. They're almost exactly like how thedonald subreddit used to be a decade ago. Probably quite a few of those rejects ended up there the way ml works for maga.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Well, you come from an instance where the rules are literally pro-authoritarian, so yeah people are gonna assume you're a tankie as well.

    What are your thoughts on North Korea?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    it's a heavily sanctioned garrison state that emerged from a brutal colonial occupation and a war that killed a third of the population.

    i dont particularly care for any states, but i have special contempt for the US. that makes it hard to share in the fearmongering about the US's designated enemies on the other side of the planet from where i live.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Well, you didn't describe them as brave freedom fighters trying to maintain true democracy in spite of western fascism, so that's a good sign.

    In retrospect, I probably should have asked you about authoritarianism.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I probably should have asked you about authoritarianism.

    yes i oppose authoritarianism, but also all states are authoritarian. liberal authoritarianism is a far greater threat to my existence right now than any threat from the state enemies of the US

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    "Tankies" just means people who support existing socialist states. Typically we are Marxist-Leninists, but anarchists and socdems also fit this sometimes and are targeted.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago

    Tankies are the ideological opposite and intellectual equivalent of libertarians. Like if you're in high school it's ok to dabble but if you maintain those viewpoints into adulthood you probably weren't top of your class and you definitely weren't popular. Ideology for dumb assholes.

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