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[–] 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I advocate for organizing, because plenty of people advocate for voting already. My concern isn't with people voting or not, it's with people organizing.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Then why not tell people to vote as well as organize?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    People who vote will do so regardless. The focus of my organizing work is in pushing people to get organized.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Then why do you advocate against voting each and every time people say to vote?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I don't, so this just returns to your insistence on beating me with a strawman.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    You say it's something that keeps people from organizing. It's not hard to draw a line as to what you think people should do, with you being pro organizing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I never said voting keeps people from organizing. I said funneling people into the elecoral system as though it's a valid means of enacting societal change depresses revolutionary organizing. It legitimizes the system. The point isn't "voting stops organizing," it's about how the working class understands itself.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Further, when people treat voting as their primary means of political engagement, they do check out!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yep! I never said voting causes apathy, I pointed to the way people treat voting as a cause of apathy towards organizing. Critical distinction!

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