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[–] -3 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Then why don't you advocate for voting and organizing?

Oh wait you said people who vote will organize less.

Hey where's that source for that? You got a scientific study? Not just a Lenin quote?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    I advocate for organizing, because plenty of people advocate for voting already. My concern isn't with people voting or not, it's with people organizing.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Then why not tell people to vote as well as organize?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    People who vote will do so regardless. The focus of my organizing work is in pushing people to get organized.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Then why do you advocate against voting each and every time people say to vote?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I don't, so this just returns to your insistence on beating me with a strawman.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    You say it's something that keeps people from organizing. It's not hard to draw a line as to what you think people should do, with you being pro organizing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I never said voting keeps people from organizing. I said funneling people into the elecoral system as though it's a valid means of enacting societal change depresses revolutionary organizing. It legitimizes the system. The point isn't "voting stops organizing," it's about how the working class understands itself.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Further, when people treat voting as their primary means of political engagement, they do check out!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yep! I never said voting causes apathy, I pointed to the way people treat voting as a cause of apathy towards organizing. Critical distinction!

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