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“The left” is a joke (lemmy.world)
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[+] -6 points 1 month ago (14 children)

The ridiculous part of this that you don't seem to see is that liberals oppose fascism mildly and you refuse to ally with them to get rid of fascism.

Fascism is just over there in the corner smirking, glad you hate liberals too.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    my issue is that liberals aren't going to resolve fascism because they create the material conditions for fascism.

    fascism doesn't appear from nowhere, it emerges from the immiseration and instability that capitalism produces, something liberals are content to 'manage' without resolving.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Okay, imagine someone is blasting your house with a high-pressure hose, breaking all its windows, flooding it, etc.

    Your argument is to target the people who make plastic because that hose nozzle has plastic, rather than either convincing them to stop selling hoses to psychopaths or targeting the psychopath with the hose.

    Again, the guy with the hose is just glad you're focusing your efforts elsewhere while he destroys everything you have.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    that metaphor is incoherent and doesn't really engage anything i said, so i'll pass

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Nah, you just weren't able to comprehend it, either because you couldn't no matter what you did or because you refused to try.

    I do find that lemmy.ml tankies tend to refuse to think. They're intelligent when they bother, including when they're not busy propagandizing themselves or others.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Even if the person "wasn't able to comprehend" your analogy made from your supreme intellect, that means it failed as an analogy. The point of the analogy is to put an argument into a more understandable perspective. If it doesn't do that, it is, by the nature of it's purpose, a bad analogy.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    Even if the person “wasn’t able to comprehend” your analogy made from your supreme intellect

    A significant exaggeration to malign me as arrogant/elitist. It's like you ignored the entire last sentence of my comment. Classic tankie BS.

    Enjoy the block.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    oppose fascism mildly

    What does this mean?

    Because their opposition does not work.

    Let's look at Germany, their favorite example. The liberal position was to compromise with the fascists, and attempt to put in Hindenberg as the stop gap. The problem was that Hindenberg was unwilling to EVER accept liberal or social democratic (SPD) government. And so when he couldn't find conservatives to keep power, he put the Nazis in power.

    The "mild" opposition of liberals is only for fascism - they're very good at holding down the left while they let the fascists take power, and that's exactly the problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    liberals oppose fascism mildly

    mildly

    I feel like the argument here makes itself. The point of post is that liberals don't actually do anything significant to oppose fascism, or as you put it, only "mildly" opposing fascism.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The issue is you're implying Both Sides Are The Same, which is simply BS.

    Active, open fascism is clearly worse than tepid inability to oppose it effectively. Pretending that's not the case is just propaganda.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Which of these people was leader of Germany 2 years later? Inability to oppose fascism still permits it to take power. The only way to stop fascism is taking an actual firm stand against it, which liberals don't.

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