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[–] 32 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The man, 61, had entered the MRI room while a scan was underway

How was that allowed?

he asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table.

...while the machine was still working? And isn't that the job of the technician anyway?

the technician helped her try to pull her husband off the machine but it was impossible.

Those machines have a kill-switch for a reason.

I call this BS or a very incompetent technician.
Plus a Darwin award for the guy.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Couple things:

    The magnet is ALWAYS on.

    The "kill switch" takes about five minutes to actually deactivate the magnet and it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Isn't it an electomagnet?

    it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

    Oh, right, i forgot human lives have a price in the US.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Depends on the machine type. Closed bore machines (the vast majority) use supercunducting electromagnets that are surrounded by liquid helium that creates a very strong magnetic field. To demagnetize them requires dumping the helium.

    Some open bore machines use electromagnets, but they're much less common and not as powerful.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    So the helium itself becomes magnetized, is that it?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    the helium is liquid, which it only is when it is very very cold.
    The superconductor will keep it's magnetic field forever, as long as it's superconducting, and it will stay superconducting while it is very very cold.

    There is physically no way (as in, it is simply impossible, due to how our world works, not money, not people, not technology) to instantly "switch off" the magnet.

    it needs to go above a certain temperature, to lose it's superconducting nature, and it needs to do it at a pace that doesn't dump a GINORMOUS amount of energy in this magnetic field instantly, because that would be even worse.

    the fault here is in allowing anyone with any magnetic metal anywhere near an MRI. And whoever let that happen is going to have a very bad week.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    The US is an outlier in how it charges prices for healthcare services.

    But every country in the world has prices charged for cold liquid helium. It's very expensive to gather, process, store, and ship, regardless of what kind of health care economics apply in your country.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (-1 children)

    Dont they loose the access to the machine anyway for few day? Im under impression metal slamming to the machine usually breaks it pretty good.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (-1 children)

    Well the thing is still that the weighted necklace pulled by 1.5 to 3 tesla towards the machine will also put it the machine out if comission from several days to several months.

    Also the down time of the machine depend from so many things like availbility of components, logistics and the actual damage happened, that even the most pragmatic operator could never calculate the price of the repair versus the value of the possibility of saving human life.

    FFS the saved 30k only buys pretty decent slightly used car. Its sick to even start to weight that kind of money to human life.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's not an electromagnet, it's a superconducting magnet. And turning it immediately off makes it melt.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's both! MRI magnets are electromagnets that are cooled down to 4 Kelvin using liquid helium. Once they reach those low temperatures, they become superconducting. This way, the magnet isn't gobbling up tons of electricity to stay at the desired field strength. Instead, the liquid helium needs to be replenished occasionally to keep it at superconducting temperature. Source: I work with MRI scanners.

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