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[–] CobraCommander 66 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Shin played with an advantageous, two-stone handicap⁠—seemingly standard for matches between humans and top AIs⁠

Apparently that’s the norm, and humans have still lost up until now.

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[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago*

The headline led me to assume that they were scratch games until I read the article. Still, an amazing performance when you consider that it's been a decade since Lee Sedol lost to AlphaGo.

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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Im pretty sure computers/AI started beating the top humans at go at least like 10 years ago. It definitely was well before covid and the current AI boom. Although Im sure the computers have only gotten better since then

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[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Source? My recollection at the time was quite the opposite; that pros consistently found AI were weak in large sections of the end game. The lookup tables required to do what stockfish does for chess are absurdly large, iirc.

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[–] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Alpha go won 4 to 1 in 2016. Might have passed you by or it seems closer in time but ten years was spot on.

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[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Ahhh; I was not reading carefully enough. You are right.

I was, for whatever silly reason, reading "current AI boom" as "current AI methods"; AlphaGo was a neural network model, very close to what we do for LLMs, genAI, etc. My impression was that before NN's, we had a good lead over computers.