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They punch left to protect and defend the right (lemmy.world)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/51582749

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[–] 65 points 2 months ago (25 children)

I love how the most basic social democratic(at best) policies in the US are framed as "socialism"

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The idea of the "undeserving" getting anything provided to them gets a lot of people very angry here. And then those same people probably:

    • Call themselves good Christians.
    • Are beneficiaries of some sort of public welfare whether they realize it or not.
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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If they're opposed to "socialism" as Fox News uses the term because some of the recipients aren't "deserving", they have started far from the words attributed to Jesus and God in the Christian Bible.

    https://biblerepository.com/bible-verses-about-socialism/

    Matthew 25:35

    “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in.”

    (And if you think this quote is out of context, go read the chapter. Jesus is depicted literally telling his followers that to get into heaven they need to take care of the poor.)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Technically it is, no? Socialism is community ownership of the means of production which includes labor. And that can arguably be extended to socialized services for labor such has healthcare, public transportation, and grocery stores.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Social democracy is not socialism by any metric, socialism starts at ownership of the means of production by workers, and a state that works for the proletariat and not capitalists. That's the starting point, from there you can then add whatever social programs on top, but if you don't start from there you're still in a bourgeois democracy

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I disagree, socialist institutions or services can still exist within a capitalist government, even if it is piecemeal. There doesn't have to be a threshhold to pass for some aspect to be considered socialism.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    To expand upon you: examples of such institutions or policies would be free healthcare, universal basic income, but also places like libraries. You could even call (financial) support for housing & children, as well as progressive taxes socialist - despite the system in which they exist being capitalist.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Leftists who keep looking down on liberals are just as bad as the liberals the meme is about.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Nah liberals are fucking stupid. Go suck a billionaire dick for a campaign donation.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    This attitude is why the right is winning. The left, both leftists and liberals, would rather keep gatekeeping what counts as left than actually make any progress to the left.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    billionaire dick sucking noises

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Trust me, those noises are coming from the people eating up the liberal vs leftist propaganda.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    That’s you. You think liberals are leftists.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    You should work on your reading comprehension. I never said that. I said that I think they should stop fighting each other.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Because you think they’re on the same side. They aren’t. Liberals are right of center. Why the fuck would leftists compromise with right wing politics?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Because the alternative is letting the far right win.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Liberals support everything the far right is doing. They’re part of the ratchet that prevents actual leftward momentum from ever occurring. Fuck liberals.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yes they are, and so is this attitude from leftists. As long as both sides remain stubborn the far right will continue to win.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Lmao you are really fucking stupid if you think calling out right wing shitheads for being right wing shitheads is blocking movement to the left. Fuck you chud.

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