▲ 621 ▼ PlayStation Wants To Prove In Court That You Don't Own Your Digital Games (www.polygon.com) submitted 2 months ago by unglueclass23@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world 160 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] micgerne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 176 points 2 months ago (17 children) if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing. permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago Piracy isn't stealing either way. It's just copyright infringement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 32 points 2 months ago* (7 children) Sadly, catchy slogans don't hold up in court. Better to buy from distributors who don't try to make that claim, like GOG - even if they won't put Nine Sols on the store to avoid offending many gamers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago Sadly, catchy slogans don't hold up in court. Idk, OJ floated by on his. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago No crime where's no judge. permalink fedilink source parent [+] huey_m@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* There's a technical aspect to it too. Downloading over HTTPS covers your butt in a way that you need a good VPN for if torrenting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago I think that's largely true in the US, at least. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What do you mean by gog offending gamers by selling nine sols? Is it because it's the same dev as devotion? Or some other reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 1 point 2 months ago You got it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) Soon the game files will be on the cloud and the client on your computer is just a launcher. Then piracy will be over as well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) They tried that (Google stadia), performance is crap. They need a datacenter with beefy GPUs need everyone to keep latency low, so the infrastructure costs aren't worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Unless it's the only option and they raise the prices. Then you either play Indy games which will resist and still send you the files or if you want AAA you accept the new normal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago I already only play Indies, so we'll be safe for a while permalink fedilink source parent [–] tf1@sopuli.xyz -4 points 2 months ago (3 children) we don't need to resolt to piracy just to have our digital ownership permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago (2 children) no, but it's morally acceptable to pirate things released by hostile corporations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tf1@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I suppose, but I don't think that piracy is the true answer, and we should instead be fighting more for digital independence instead of piracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago 2 things can be done at the same time just like 2 things can be true at the same time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago Piracy isn't stealing either way. It's just copyright infringement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 32 points 2 months ago* (7 children) Sadly, catchy slogans don't hold up in court. Better to buy from distributors who don't try to make that claim, like GOG - even if they won't put Nine Sols on the store to avoid offending many gamers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] qarbone@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago Sadly, catchy slogans don't hold up in court. Idk, OJ floated by on his. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago No crime where's no judge. permalink fedilink source parent [+] huey_m@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* There's a technical aspect to it too. Downloading over HTTPS covers your butt in a way that you need a good VPN for if torrenting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago I think that's largely true in the US, at least. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What do you mean by gog offending gamers by selling nine sols? Is it because it's the same dev as devotion? Or some other reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 1 point 2 months ago You got it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago Sadly, catchy slogans don't hold up in court. Idk, OJ floated by on his. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago No crime where's no judge. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] huey_m@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* There's a technical aspect to it too. Downloading over HTTPS covers your butt in a way that you need a good VPN for if torrenting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago I think that's largely true in the US, at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* There's a technical aspect to it too. Downloading over HTTPS covers your butt in a way that you need a good VPN for if torrenting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago I think that's largely true in the US, at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What do you mean by gog offending gamers by selling nine sols? Is it because it's the same dev as devotion? Or some other reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 1 point 2 months ago You got it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 1 point 2 months ago You got it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) Soon the game files will be on the cloud and the client on your computer is just a launcher. Then piracy will be over as well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) They tried that (Google stadia), performance is crap. They need a datacenter with beefy GPUs need everyone to keep latency low, so the infrastructure costs aren't worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Unless it's the only option and they raise the prices. Then you either play Indy games which will resist and still send you the files or if you want AAA you accept the new normal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago I already only play Indies, so we'll be safe for a while permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) They tried that (Google stadia), performance is crap. They need a datacenter with beefy GPUs need everyone to keep latency low, so the infrastructure costs aren't worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Unless it's the only option and they raise the prices. Then you either play Indy games which will resist and still send you the files or if you want AAA you accept the new normal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago I already only play Indies, so we'll be safe for a while permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Unless it's the only option and they raise the prices. Then you either play Indy games which will resist and still send you the files or if you want AAA you accept the new normal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago I already only play Indies, so we'll be safe for a while permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago I already only play Indies, so we'll be safe for a while permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tf1@sopuli.xyz -4 points 2 months ago (3 children) we don't need to resolt to piracy just to have our digital ownership permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago (2 children) no, but it's morally acceptable to pirate things released by hostile corporations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tf1@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I suppose, but I don't think that piracy is the true answer, and we should instead be fighting more for digital independence instead of piracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago 2 things can be done at the same time just like 2 things can be true at the same time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago (2 children) no, but it's morally acceptable to pirate things released by hostile corporations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tf1@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I suppose, but I don't think that piracy is the true answer, and we should instead be fighting more for digital independence instead of piracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago 2 things can be done at the same time just like 2 things can be true at the same time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tf1@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I suppose, but I don't think that piracy is the true answer, and we should instead be fighting more for digital independence instead of piracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago 2 things can be done at the same time just like 2 things can be true at the same time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago 2 things can be done at the same time just like 2 things can be true at the same time permalink fedilink source parent