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[–] 65 points 2 months ago (45 children)

Is there any type of context available? Spike mat for bikes seems pretty much interchangeable with pulling a gun in terms of likely outcome for the target.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    FYI, the spike strips are designed to minimise the chances of a crash after use. They don't burst the tires. Instead the spikes are hollow and designed to break off. This deflates the tire slowly, giving the driver a chance to adapt, but can no longer go fast.

    Basically, they are far less likely to cause a crash than you seem to think.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (18 children)

    Nah, not at those speeds. It seems police are after these kids for being a public nuisance rather than speeding.

    EDIT; Ok, since people seem incapable of understanding the context of my answer: Justified or not, it is not interchangeable with pulling out a gun at those speeds. Y'alls reading comprehension sucks.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    When you make posts with two statements, people tend to get lost in the meaning and focus only on one. This is why I never bring up the collection of stool samples I keep in my sock drawer.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    I've noticed. I usually try to have the first part of anything I write act as a summary of a statement, as many people seem to only read a few words just enough to get angry enough to push the downvote button. This is how nuance is lost to headline-outrage. And there's no reason to limit yourself to just samples when you can go for a real full-scale collection.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    ...public nuisance rather than spending.

    Kids out there causing trouble without even having the decency to stimulate the local economy.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    So the sane option is to try to pop their wheels and cause an accident, especially with TONS of kids right behind the lead ones?

    They may be at low speeds, but imagine if Officer Porky managed to take down one of the first kids before that big section came through. That kid would have then been a road hazard and likely taken out more kids, hurting both the first and subsequent kids in the accident.

    It really is too bad Porky was able to walk away after he got hit. Wish he would have gotten the injuries he was trying to inflict on the kids.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It’s actually really easy to not be a selfish piece of shit. Most people do it all the time. These shitty kids made their choices, and they weren’t good ones.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    So the punishment for violating road rules is execution by cop? You're talking about attempted murder here.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    No, we really aren’t. We are taking about a proportional force response. These people are willing to go speeding around on sidewalks and through red light intersections. They badly hurt people with that behavior. It’s not like the cop pulled a gun.

    The only way I can see from your perspective is if you don’t understand how spike strips work. They don’t just pop and shred a fire, they are specifically engineered to slowly let the air out.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I’m a motorcyclist and you don’t have a clue.

    Punctured tyres aren’t going to kill anyone at that speed.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Idk what's this obsession with "kids". If they are old enough to drive, they're not a kid anymore. You can't use a deadly machine and call yourself a kid. Use big boy tools, act like a big boy, or else there should be big boy consequences.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The cops aren't choosing what speed they illegally ride at.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The person trained for high-speed driving is driving at a speed that untrained people claim is too fast for that person's ability in those circumstances while driving for work as an emergency worker?

    Dunning-kruger is right.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    You should be able to control a bike in a straight line with a flat tyre, especially at the speed this lot are going.

    And falling off isn't as dangerous as you think.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Not likely to control a bike after it hits another that was laying in the street

    Pretty dangerous to have one of your mates roll over you with their bike

    The potential for bad outcomes through a domino effect here is pretty big

    We don’t have the full story here, but going from what seems like “public nuisance” to “injury or death” seems like an unreasonable escalation to me.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Stop talking about shit you don't understand with confidence. Your statements are going to get someone who believes them hurt.

    To anyone reading: Take it from anyone who actually rides over this idiocy. A flat motorcycle tire at any speed is dangerous and possibly deadly.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (10 children)

    I ride and you’re wrong.

    I’ve had a puncture at 130km/h and pulled over no problem.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    And a lady fell thousands of feet with no parachute and lived. Will you advise others to make an attempt sans-chute?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Sounds like riding isn't for you if a puncture, which happens to thousands of motorcyclists without any issue beyond a flat tyre, scares you so much.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    I didn't say flats scared me. I said it was irresponsible to make claims about a fall at 50 km an hour. Nonetheless 5 km an hour.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    You claimed the spike strip presented a serious risk to their lives and you’re full of shit.

    You have nothing to back up your claim that it was unreasonable to attempt to stop these morons before they wind up under a truck.

    I can only hope they actually attend their fellow morons funeral when it inevitably happens.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    No I didn't make that claim, that was another user.

    I took issue wit the comment about 50km/h being too slow to hurt someone and then again when they doubled down in another comment about flats.

    If you have 500,000 km under your ass then you know this was a stupid thing to say. So why are you stepping in? Just to argue with someone for fun?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    A flat motorcycle tire at any speed is dangerous and possibly deadly.

    Your comment is right there for us to read. Oh no that flat at 5km/h!

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It sounds like you're a bad rider, to be honest. Do grass clippings also scare you?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    None of this stuff scares me. Or I wouldn't be riding every day that I can for over three decades.

    The problem is people saying stupid shit like 'you won't get hurt at 50km/h' that will get read by impressionable new/young bikers. But you know that already don't you? You just like to talk smack instead of reflecting on the dumb shit you say.

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