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[–] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

I'll take my chances with the CCP over ICE any fucking day of the year.

We are always under more threat from our own governments than a foreign one and I do not live in China or China-aligned country. I'm safer with my data in Beijing than in Redmond.

And that's the worst case scenario. Likely, it's enough of a win for China to have an OS that the US doesn't have backdoors into without China needing their own.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    You know the two aren't really the same, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (8 children)

    That's the point: I don't even know the name of the Chinese agency I would even theoretically need to worry about.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Back when Grindr was owned by a Chinese company there was concerns that data from the platform could be used to blackmail western politicians and civil servants.

    I can't remember the details but my point is - just because you don't live in China it doesn't mean you're risk free.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I'm neither a politician nor a civil servant, and if I were, as a leftist, I'd be more threatened by Trump having my data than Xi Jinping.

    Do I just keep repeating this or...?

    Edit: yeah, as yourself point out: the threat China poses is giving your data to your government. lol

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That's worse, not better. Ignorance of the danger is not an advantage.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I find your inability to understand why an American is more afraid of ICE than a Chinese government agency really perplexing.

    But, in honor of your concern, I will forthwith carry a rock that keeps away Chinese agents.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I find your inability to understand why an American is more afraid of ICE than a Chinese government agency really perplexing.

    that's. not. what. you. were. saying.

    you are just ignorant and proud of it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Honestly, that was the sum totality of my intention. If you would like to review the logs and tell me where my language reflected differently, I would love to know about it because I never had an intent to say anything else.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Your data is going to the US government and data brokers, even if you don't know it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Source that China is using its backdoors to share information with the US? I mean, it very well might be, at least it's an extra step. I'm saying I'd rather not share my information with anyone, but if i had to choose, it would be a foreign government ahead of my own.

    I'm not sure where I'm going wrong, there.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Not what I meant, the US is grabbing all the information on their own, don't think they aren't. Maybe some of you more sophisticated computer heads can avoid it, but I wouldn't expect it.

    They have everything compromised on a basic level, basic levels. China could sell your information back to the US too though in some kind of deal.

    But yeah I agree, I'd rather have foreign governments having it than mine own. But it's near impossible for a layman, or person without substantial resources, to keep their information out of the hands of the NSA and data brokers, I strongly suspect, as Edward Snowden informed us.

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