Since the family didn’t want to turn off RCS, I completely changed the app instead😂😂😂

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[–] 25 points 2 months ago (28 children)

Has signal left EU?

Quick search says they were threatening to leave, but didn't see anything to the effect that they had.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 2 months ago (27 children)

    I comtemplated using Signal until I saw they you need the play store in order to use it👀

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    https://molly.im/

    My wife and I use Signal with each other. She also uses Graphene on her Pixel. Both were her choice. And now she wants to go further down the FOSS rabbit hole. I warned her it was deep. She's totally onboard.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    How did you get her on board? Can your wife talk to my wife? Over signal 😅

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    She was getting fed up with the direction all the tech companies were going and started researching how to take ownership of her shit. I only found out because she asked me about Graphene OS, which caught me totally off-guard because she was an apple person for so long. We talked about it at length, then she decided to ditch her iPhone for a used P9PXL, and asked me to install Graphene OS as soon as it arrived.

    She is incredibly sharp and is more than happy to struggle with figuring out a whole new world of privacy and real ownership than deal with forced "upgrades" that do nothing except harvest even more data.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Nice! Yeah my wide gets irritated if I even mention hosting something. She's still under the impression open source means poorly thrown together... I've self hosted things for so long, and I had a new pack of hard drives fail (4 out of 8) after moving about 50TB of data, so she sees how bad it can be to host; however, 90%of her stuff on her phone isn't backed up bc she won't let me install anything to help and she has no cloud storage.

    She works for a big (in its industry) software company and of course is always fed the "little guys" aren't as good, etc. I'm chipping away slowly but surely. 🤞

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I also use Delta over Signal for my own reasons, but heads up:

    Nah, download Aurora Store from F-Droid, now you have degoogled access to the Play Store.

    BUT a word of warning:

    You still have to be careful of what you download, it usually lists known trackers to help with that. And "requires google play services" is often actually not true, some things that claim that work fine or maybe just don't give notifications.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Never heard of delta chat. Glancing at it on F-Droid, it looks a lot like Briar.

    Any commentary on a comparison of signal v Briar v Delta chat on features / privacy?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Never used Briar myself, but I like how Delta is decentralized and resilient to outages even supporting multi-relay set ups, easy to use for the "normals," it's private and secure, low (no?) metadata. Among other things I'm sure, that's just off the top of my head.

    The ease of use is one of the biggest, I couldn't send someone "normal" a link or QR code and expect them to navigate through setting up XMPP or Matrix accounts, but with Delta I've never had an issue, I've even gotten near tech-illiterate people like my mom to do it. Signal is easy too, but was out for other reasons (mostly phone number requirements.)

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It just makes sense to just download everything from Droid-ify and/or Fdroid ( almost all of my apps are from these two). Yeah but even with that, it can still get shut off. Idk. . I wouldn't risk it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah I do when available too, but if something I need isn't on F-Droid I'll use Aurora begrudgingly, just nice to have the option.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    They also got a store called Aurora Droid. Its another alternative to fdroid. Now I don't know if it'll help with some apps from Aurora store but its another alternative.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    You don't REALLY but they also don't make it easy to use anything else.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know... some of these apps I've been experimenting with, even with microG, of not work properly just because your not getting it from the play store. Also,with September being around the corner, I would try to stay away from google as much as I can.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If you do want to use it, there's a security focused fork called Molly on f-droid. You'll have to enable their repository though.

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