velma comments on Mid announcement

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Dude. You can’t ask people to ignore offensive jokes while simultaneously pre-excusing yourself for anything you might say because of trauma.

Know your audience. Don’t be surprised if someone calls you out for being a jerk. Your trauma doesn’t excuse your treatment of others either.

You’ve been stuck on this for days now. If the fediverse is telling you that your jokes are inappropriate, then maybe it’s time to listen and adjust.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I wasn't saying anything about myself, I was saying that instantly assuming someone making a joke you don't like is a bad person and feeling justified in attacking them is the opposite of being caring and welcoming.

Black people get called racist, gay folks get called homophobic, cancer survivors get called evil and insensitive all for making jokes about how they've been treated by society. Not even by other people who have been through the same, but by people who haven't lived through it trying to show how righteous they are online by jumping on someone they know nothing about the minute they see something that makes their hair trigger feel justified in doing that.

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[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Well, some black people are racist. Candace Owens. And some gay people are homophobic. Republican senators. And I will bet you money that some people who survive cancer are also evil.

And if anyone makes a bigoted/insensitive joke, they should absolutely be called out for it.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're missing the point. If you want to actually be accepting of others and welcoming you need to understand nuance and actually know something about a person, not jump on them for a joke that is clearly a joke or an attempt to laugh about a difficult topic.

It's the assumption that you're a good person and anyone telling a joke you see as potentially problematic must be a bad person and feeling instantly justified in jumping on them with hate. It's like screaming at a person you know nothing about beyond their skin tone about cultural appropriation of things from a culture you don't belong to or know much of anything about.

There's a huge difference between actually speaking up for people and against actual racism and jumping on someone based on your own assumption to show what a good person you are and because you feel justified in letting out some hate at someone you've decided must be bad and doing that feels good.

And it's extremely funny that your go to for racist black people was Candace Owens.

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